Posted on 01/03/2016 8:53:05 PM PST by justlittleoleme
Can Cruz win New York? Zero chance. Trump? 50/50.
Been there, bought that stupid tactic. It won’t work this time. It should never work. Voters should make their pick and not let other people’s bully theories dissuade them. If we choose badly, we choose badly. At least let it be on principle and not on strategic power grabbing.
Where our attention should be is on stopping the cheating was of the left. I believe they will try to cheat and steal their way to victory.
I live in New York. Now why don’t you show me ANY poll that has Trump tied at 50/50 with Hilary in New York. There is no such poll.
This is the same stupid argument that McCain and Romney used.
“Electable” Republican candidates lose because they alienate tens of millions of disaffected conservative voters who end up staying home instead of voting for GOPe candidates.
Only by appealing to Evangelicals, Tea Partiers, and Constitutionalists will a Republican presidential candidate win the crucial swing states of Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
It isn't, and you are foaming at the mouth. Further, it was you and other Trumpbots that first of all claimed that Ted Cruz was not electable but Trump was, when in reality, it's the other way round.
âElectableâ Republican candidates lose because they alienate tens of millions of disaffected conservative voters who end up staying home instead of voting for GOPe candidates.
The only real conservative running is Cruz not Trump. Trump is every bit as liberal as Romney was.
I doubt that. I find it hard to believe "tens of millions" of conservatives stay home.
However, I can't think of a single "celebrity" candidate who lost their first general election.
Both Trump and Ted Cruz are the only candidates who can beat Hillary.
However, Trump will do the most damage to the GOPe.
While beating Hillary would generally be a positive, the political destruction of the GOPe and their candidates should be the most important priority in 2016.
Yup. Bush will flatten Hillary. But, of course, Trump towers over him.
Sounds like Bush is a winner... as a Democrat.
Think? OK, I’m thinking “Gee, the media would never attempt at derailing a leading GOP candidate by playing a “lead them to the slaughter” game with polling numbers ... Nah, the liberal establishment hacks would NEVER do that!”
Look, Theo, the only “poll” that counts is the one that occurs in the voting booth. So, you go stump for your guy, Senator Cruz, and I’ll support mine, Mr. Trump.” That’s how the game is played ... And, if your man wins the nod, I’ll gladly give him my thumbs up.
We all can well enough “think” for ourselves, so please stop insulting our intelligence.
Thanks.
There are just as many low-information men as there are women!
Oh pulleeeeze!
Get off your high horse. Nobody is impressed with your “simplistic” appraisal of the electorate, except perhaps for yourself - but I doubt that requires much in the way of genius.
You forgot to mention that liberal married women, liberal single men, and liberal married men will also vote for Hillary!
Hitlary has no following. She can’t fill a 5000 seat auditorium
This is false propaganda.
Trump followers are busting down doors to see him!
The math doesn’t figure...
See post 51 in this thread.
Says elect-ability is the easiest part of a poll to skew and explains why.
>> I definitely agree with that...
That’s a contradiction to the observations you expressed in your post #1.
The ONLY NY poll to date is from Siena in September and has Hillary beating Trump 55-36 in this lost cause of a state.
RINO Romney lost the state 63-35.
RINO McCain lost the state 62-36
Bush lost NY 58-40 vs. Kerry in ‘04 and 60-35 vs. AlGore in ‘00
The last Republican to win NY was Reagan in ‘84.
I hate NY, for exactly that reason.
I am talking about how Cruz and Trump do in general election matchups with Hilary Clinton. Cruz does much better against Hilary Clinton, yet the Trumpbots insist on polluting every Cruz thread with the fiction that Cruz is too conservative to win against Hilary Clinton. Meanwhile, Cruz is tied or beating Hilary Clinton in the last 3 polls.
That pretty much sums it up. The very idea of Trump being tied at 50/50 with Hilary Clinton like that poster claimed is ridiculous. That’s why I demanded he show me such a poll.
I simply don’t see how Trump beats Hilary in New York.
Trump crowd in Council Bluffs, IA:
Trump rally Beloxi, Mississippi
1-2-2016
I suspect the polls are being manipulated. If I was a democrat, I’d vote for Cruz in the poll in hopes the GOP nominates him instead of Trump. I don’t know how you avoid that sort of manipulation.
Regardless of the polls, I see no logical reason Cruz would pull more democrats than Trump. Trump has very proactively reached out to blacks, hispanics, and women. And Trump’s protection of American industries and of police officers plays well with unions.
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