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Santorum Claims Ted Cruz isn't a Conservative. Um, What?
Last Resistance ^ | December 31, 2015 | Rob Knowles

Posted on 12/31/2015 11:28:34 AM PST by Isara

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To: C. Edmund Wright

I can’t. I think very highly of EV as person and as a pro-lifer who has taught me things on that subject (and he knows that because I’ve told him), but I see no reason to jump on Cruz like that.


61 posted on 12/31/2015 2:29:15 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: EveningStar

I hear that Trump’s body has such perfect metabolism that it perfectly utilizes every calorie ingested and thus there is no waste product produced. This is yet another reason to vote for him. No bathroom breaks.


62 posted on 12/31/2015 2:30:51 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The terms “conservative” and “liberal” and “left” and “right” have had so many different meanings and usages that they are mostly meaningless.

The conservative of Cruz is close to Goldwater and Reagan but from from Burke. And consider the issues.

I remember attending Youth for Goldwater and Young People’s Socialist league in the same week in spring of ‘64. We YFG evangelicals were considered anti-tobacco and homo friendly (as long as they stayed in the closet).

YPSL was extremely pro-tobacco and extremely anti-homo. All homos were accused of being spies for J Edgar Hoover.

Now the roles and definitions are flipped.

As recently as 2002 all conservative talk ratio hosts had the Wall Street Journal capitalist -Let the Free Market decided- position on immigration. They ridiculed Pat Buchanan for being the only anti-immigration conservative, as did McLaughlin and conservatives on TV. My Congressman Phil Crane, the ACU candidate for president in 1980, was known as one of the most open borders politicians in DC.

Then between 2002 and 2004 most conservatives totally flipped, rejecting capitalism and pushing a big government approach to immigration. And these new big government conservatives get indignant when the truth is pointed out to them.

Then there are the neo-Cons. Pre-neo-Con, conservatives were for big national security, big defense because they were anti-communist. The neo-cons are pro-big government both domestically and internationally. For example, their nation-building plan for Iraq was to neuter all the local village and provincial political power and centralize everything in one big single branch in Bagdad. And that bears the label conservative.

Of course, the same could be said for the label: liberal.


63 posted on 12/31/2015 2:37:13 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Isara
And Ted Cruz takes the position of very much the Tenth Amendment and State's rights, you know, which is sort of a Rand Paul/Ron Paul position.

So if Ron and Rand wear their pants zippers in front, Rick will wear his in the back? Wotta maroon.

64 posted on 12/31/2015 2:45:46 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think marriage is marriage nationwide. Calling every org*sm marriage doesn’t make it true. Still, the states rights argument is the only one gaining any traction. I’ll take it over nothing at all.

My main point was that Cruz never changed positions. Both positions are better than Trump’s position, which essentially says it has already been decided and there is nothing more to be done.


65 posted on 12/31/2015 2:49:16 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; HiTech RedNeck
"how dare you hide behind God."

That's what he does.

Repeatedly. Habitually. Constantly.

And, Edmund, if you continue challenging him, you will be warned about God's wrath.

66 posted on 12/31/2015 2:49:28 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Santorum is not a theocrat. He does believe in our society being founded on Judeo-Christian values. That is another matter. All the founders of this nation agreed with that and they were certainly not theocrats.

The charge is just a smear used by those who want to keep moving our society more and more to the radical left and who fear that someone with some common sense might try to unravel the garbage the left has entangled us in.


67 posted on 12/31/2015 2:52:22 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"Can anyone make sense of post 53?"

Wow.

It's going to take someone drunk to do that, most likely.

68 posted on 12/31/2015 2:54:25 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: CatherineofAragon

“My question is, why is Rick even putting forth the effort? Does he seriously think he has a chance?”

Rick is a member of the elite group that self-identify as “former Presidential candidates.”

It is a career path, which leads to a nice six-figure income and lifestyle, of TV appearances, book, speaking engagements, etc.

The same people that have or would vote for him, for his theocratic political philosophy, will effectively support him indefinitely.

Huckabee will be going back to it, also. So in 2020 do Santorum, Huck, Fiorina, Carson, Perry, Walker, Cain, Gingrich, Bush, Christie, Pataki, Jinhdal, Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham, maybe Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, and who know who else come out and clog up the GOP process?

Will it start in 2018? Will there get to be 20 candidates?


69 posted on 12/31/2015 2:58:43 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: CatherineofAragon

Well Pharisee types are like that. Televangelists, Intervangelists...liberals. SSDD.


70 posted on 12/31/2015 3:08:54 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Norm Lenhart

LOL, pree-cisely


71 posted on 12/31/2015 3:28:21 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: EveningStar

LOL!!


72 posted on 12/31/2015 3:28:39 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oh my. To hide behind God. How unbiblical of me.

(Open area left for irony detection!)

Yeah God has wrath, and if He says there is some chink, ANY chink, in your armor against him... He can give you the royal shaking treatment (or technically, tell the devil to go ahead and do it to you, because as the bible says, He does not willingly grieve the sons of men) until you’re ready to lay your pride down and let Him through the chink. Then you’ll wonder why you ever opposed Him, what a stupid thing to do towards such a kind God.


73 posted on 12/31/2015 3:37:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I mean, if He SEES such a chink... really this God bends over backwards to be gracious to ANY hint of willingness...


74 posted on 12/31/2015 3:38:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Santorum is what used to be called a “Rose Window Conservative”: much more concerned with conserving the heritage of Medieval Scholasticism and the Council of Trent than in conserving the American Founding. The whole Anglo-Scottish “Enlightenment” on which the American Founding was based is one step too far for him, just like the Continental “Enlightenment” was a step too far for those of us whose conservatism is shaped by Burke, Acton and Kirk.


75 posted on 12/31/2015 3:39:40 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Isara

> “Ted Cruz is a constitutional conservative, and as such, he believes strongly in the Tenth Amendment, which says that the powers not enumerated to the federal government are to be left to the states. It’s a powerful amendment that was designed to protect Americans from federal overreach.”

It was badly ‘designed’ because it did not take into account that Congress would be captured by the NY Fed, thereby detaching the People from responsive representation. The number of lobbyists inside the Beltway has quintupled since Ronald Reagan and the reason is the money. The NY Fed has been channeling digitally created money through the bond markets to the US Government. The bond traders have grown very rich and fat, and they setup lobbyists for their own purposes as well as for foreign clients such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the like.

The 10th Amendment was for a time when money was not created from nothing, but was backed by gold.

Bottomline is the 10th Amendment will never be enforced by any portion of the Federal Government. It is written for the States but there is no enforcement mechanism save by concrete action of Congress which will not act because the members are mere conduits for Fed created money and will not submit funding bills that contain riders tha limit federal funds to conditions arising from 10th Amendment concerns,

What is needed is an Article V Amendment that is controllable by a threshold of 30 States to provide a means to void any action of federal government.


76 posted on 12/31/2015 3:41:10 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; CatherineofAragon

Project we much, and if much, then project we will..

“We” being “You”. “Project” being your whole post. “Much” being the quantitative descriptor of the level involved.


77 posted on 12/31/2015 3:44:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: truth_seeker

You know, the thought of having to look at those same faces over and over again...

But I see your point.


78 posted on 12/31/2015 3:44:30 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: The_Reader_David

That sounds like a Roman Catholic take on Christianity.

This is better than NO take on Christianity, of course. God can fix distorted belief better than NO belief.

While Cruz isn’t technically a NO belief situation, indulge me in a little “concern trollery” as to whether he buys into the dominionist wishes of his papa towards him (his papa’s son). If he does... that’s a heaping helping of self will sitting where faith in Christ really ought to be. Jesus refused the devil’s offer to give him the kingdoms of the earth prematurely (before God snatches them from him) over this issue... it’s not the most trivial thing in the world, let’s say that.

Please take this not as an absolute statement of bad news, but as a pointer to a wisp of smoke coming from his house. Maybe he just burned the beans, or maybe his house is on fire. We might want to look.


79 posted on 12/31/2015 3:46:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; HiTech RedNeck

I’m gathering that God will give me the royal shaking treatment for my pride-—or, in other words, because I challenge Hi-Tech.

Am I reading that right, Norm?


80 posted on 12/31/2015 3:48:26 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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