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Why the Establishment Fears Cruz More Than Trump
Conservative Review ^ | December 28th, 2015 | Robert Eno

Posted on 12/28/2015 2:33:48 PM PST by Isara

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To: conservativejoy

The thing that stopped any immigration bill from passing was Dave Brat unseating Cantor.


61 posted on 12/28/2015 3:07:57 PM PST by Amntn (The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people. Donald Trump)
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To: trisham

I understand about the supporters running you off, only from an entirely different side. I think we have no more conservative coalition big enough to win anything. It is all just a power and money grab. Sad.


62 posted on 12/28/2015 3:08:28 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I appreciate your kind reply.


63 posted on 12/28/2015 3:10:22 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz did not support the Corker bill or TPA. Stop trying to distort the truth.

Besides, that is a joke coming from a Trump supporter especially since Trump supports gay marriage, abortion, TARP, the Clintons, and the rest of the extreme liberal agenda.


64 posted on 12/28/2015 3:11:03 PM PST by TXDuke
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To: TXDuke; Isara; All
Putting flags under Trump only serves to hide his true liberalism because Trump is certainly not pro-American is many of his stances. Are Trumpets that scared the truth about Trump will get out??

No, Trump supporters are just getting sick and tired of Isara spamming every Cruz thread with that inane 'Trump vs Cruz' chart which is just as dubious as Cruzers consider my handy-dandy little chart (which actually is more satire of Isara's visual yum-yums than anything else).

I have not posted one negative thing about Ted Cruz, and I was supporting him before Trump entered the race. I am following the example of our Esteemed Founder (see my tagline) and if someone really supports Ted Cruz, they need to follow HIS good example, which is to NOT trash Trump.

Cruz will rise or fall by his own devices and how the primary electorate responds. Ditto for Trump. But the sniping at Trump by insecure and frightened Cruz supporters needs to stop and today would not be too soon.
65 posted on 12/28/2015 3:11:49 PM PST by mkjessup (JimRob: "It's Trump or Cruz, all the others are amnesty pimps" And the man is RIGHT!)
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To: conservativejoy; LS

I would say that just by running the world is listening to TRUMP. He IS public service, nationally and becoming more so even internationally.

I mean who else has drawn even our socialist allies into dread of TRUMP? He is an ornery, independent cuss who intends to rebuild what makes America free and secure. Our military.

We are seeing Obama turn back Mexican families, whole sale, at the border, right? That is not about anybody bringing heat but TRUMP. He is loud and proud. We all were that way once.

Who running has uttered a personal peep to Hillary Clinton that EVER forms the word, “WARNING”?

TRUMP has a footprint that China is hearing. Putin has remarked, not about Hillary or anyone running, but TRUMP.

Russia hears TRUMP. He heard TRUMP say what Americans everywhere were saying. Let Putin fight ISIS. (Until TRUMP can unleash Hell as president.)

The Czeckeslovakian repeats what TRUMP said out loud, these immigrant Syrian “refugees” are young and strong, and why aren’t they fighting ISIS in their own countries??

Heck, that’s just for starters. TRUMP says he hasn’t even started on Hillary.


66 posted on 12/28/2015 3:12:00 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Amntn

The Gang of 8 bill was in 2013. Dave Brat unseated Cantor in 2014, due in large part to the continued opposition of that legislation, opposition that was spearheaded by Cruz and Sessions, even in their many meeting with House Republicans.


67 posted on 12/28/2015 3:12:39 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"Cruz is not a leader, he is only a follower."

From where I sit, the analysis in this article is dead on. The Washington GOP establishment hates Cruz more than Hillary or Obama.

Who is he following? There is no one else in Washington snugging up to Cruz, except Jeff Sessions and a few Tea Party folks.

Oh... I said it.... Tea Party. THAT is the operative word. The Washington Establishment, Democrat AND Republicans, hates the Tea Party with a visceral hatred. The IRS Scandal was hot as a fire cracker.... until it actually got close to accomplishing something. Then, it fizzled out. And the GOPe let it die without a fight. Why? Because they hate the Tea Party, too.

68 posted on 12/28/2015 3:13:27 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Isara

CR re-runs?

What else have you got on the state of the actual race?

I’ll take the American. The one who has declared by action that the American MAN is back!

No pearl clutching with TRUMP and the bonus is he can speak in declarative sentences, with no if’s, maybe, shoulda, woulda, coulda.


69 posted on 12/28/2015 3:15:27 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Sasparilla

“Nobody has disrupted the politics as usual and GOPe status quo like Trump has since he announced. Nobody.”

Cruz isn’t independently wealthy, and reality TV star..


70 posted on 12/28/2015 3:16:53 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Isara

And,..... what is marvelous, TRUMP pleads “Guilty As Charged”!!! LOL!

The only man on the field that doesn’t play for the dodgers.

That’s our guy, alright! Scared of no one, helps.


71 posted on 12/28/2015 3:18:24 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
To support _____ it does not require hatred of all others.

Man did you get that right.

I don't get some folks - this isn't a football game and we've got two very promising prospects to support.

72 posted on 12/28/2015 3:18:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: mkjessup

Whoo HOO!!!!

Smokin’!!


73 posted on 12/28/2015 3:19:29 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: TXDuke

You are completely, totally, absolutely wrong.

Our constitution covers citizens only and the president has every right to limit immigration for any reason he chooses.

Jimmy Carter banned immigrants from Iran and either deported those here or put them on watch.


74 posted on 12/28/2015 3:20:31 PM PST by Amntn (The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people. Donald Trump)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"Cruz is not a leader, he is only a follower."

LOL

75 posted on 12/28/2015 3:22:45 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: Amntn
The thing that stopped any immigration bill from passing was Dave Brat unseating Cantor.

Remember this fight in 2013?

Ted Cruz Crushes Amnesty Proponents: Compares 'Gang of 8' Bill to 'Obamacare' (Video)

Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill... $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens (Video)

By the way, Ted Cruz credits "We, the People" for stopping the bill.

76 posted on 12/28/2015 3:22:52 PM PST by Isara
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
You refuse to see

Nope, that's all on you. You won't admit that Cruz can lie.

And if Cruz can lie, what does that do to his "principled conservative" talking point?

Trump led his deals right into bankruptcy a few times.

And according to a CNN report from a week or two ago (or sooner), an independent group hired by CNN estimated Trump's annual revenue from last year as being 9.5 billion dollars, and stated he employees around 22 thousand people.

The "Trump has had bankruptcies!" looks real pathetic when you consider that.

77 posted on 12/28/2015 3:23:44 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: mkjessup

Trust me, Cruz supporters are getting tired of Trumpets attacking Cruz on every Trump and Cruz thread. It cuts both ways. At least Isara’s chart is honest.

Most of the attacks against Cruz are either blatant lies or just poorly thought out. Cruz has been fighting for conservatives for years now. Trump hasn’t done a thing, but run his mouth so far. Cruz has earned his respect while Trump still needs to prove himself.


78 posted on 12/28/2015 3:23:53 PM PST by TXDuke
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To: Reagan Disciple; Isara
"I was with Cruz from the beginning but if I had any doubts they would have been wiped out by this one statement from this political loser.

Cruz it or lose it."

Good point, and I agree.

They always let you know who they fear, and it's always been Cruz.

79 posted on 12/28/2015 3:24:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: statered; conservativejoy

Hell that is EXACTLY what we need. Previous public service experience is a huge disqualifier in my mind given that everyone elected previously has had it and has been an abject failure. >>>> **********

Remember when citizen representation was not just preferred, but a “given”. Now, that is out of fashion, exchanged for PAC purchase, political ladder climbers and show offs for the base and no one beyond it.

GOD bless TRUMP for his run and the clarion call for the nation to SPEAK AGAIN.

TRUMP, 2016


80 posted on 12/28/2015 3:24:54 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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