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Some big GOP players say Trump has a Point (A lot of us support him completely)
Valdosta Today / Politico ^ | December 9, 2015

Posted on 12/09/2015 11:10:57 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: ctdonath2
freedom of religion and rule of Constitution as core principles.

False arguments begin advanced by people in the "News Media" and politics who have a very superficial understanding of the law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any
class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the
interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such
period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or
any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the
entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever
the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to
comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements
of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by
passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of
personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry
of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

21 posted on 12/09/2015 12:06:50 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

At this point who in their right mind thinks we need to let more Muslims in the country? Of course Trump is right.


22 posted on 12/09/2015 12:24:04 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MNJohnnie
Carful of cherry-picking selections from a verbose law. (C)(iii) applies too, complicating (somewhat) Trump's goal:

(C) Foreign policy
(i) In general
An alien whose entry or proposed activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is inadmissible.

(ii) Exception for officials
An alien who is an official of a foreign government or a purported government, or who is a candidate for election to a foreign government office during the period immediately preceding the election for that office, shall not be excludable or subject to restrictions or conditions on entry into the United States under clause (i) solely because of the alien's past, current, or expected beliefs, statements, or associations, if such beliefs, statements, or associations would be lawful within the United States.

(iii) Exception for other aliens
An alien, not described in clause (ii), shall not be excludable or subject to restrictions or conditions on entry into the United States under clause (i) because of the alien's past, current, or expected beliefs, statements, or associations, if such beliefs, statements, or associations would be lawful within the United States, unless the Secretary of State personally determines that the alien's admission would compromise a compelling United States foreign policy interest.

(iv) Notification of determinations
If a determination is made under clause (iii) with respect to an alien, the Secretary of State must notify on a timely basis the chairmen of the Committees on the Judiciary and Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives and of the Committees on the Judiciary and Foreign Relations of the Senate of the identity of the alien and the reasons for the determination.
23 posted on 12/09/2015 12:32:35 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Trump right more times than he’s wrong. He’s right about stopping more Muzzies from coming in—for a year maybe. Lets sort things out first. How many more Americans need to die before the PC police discover—we are at war.


24 posted on 12/09/2015 12:34:55 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: cloudmountain
What are you talking about?

Jihad in Indonesia exists.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=beheadings+in+indonesia&qpvt=beheadings+in+indonesia&qpvt=beheadings+in+indonesia&FORM=IGRE

And what about Indonesia's behavior to Christian in Yogyakarta, Java?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/indonesia-muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-attack-roman-catholic-church-during-sunday-mass

And what about the time when three Christian girls were beheaded?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4387604.stm

And don't forget East Timor!

25 posted on 12/09/2015 12:35:56 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: cloudmountain

Since only 25% of ALL the Muslims in the world are Arabs, that proposed Trump-law would be penalizing the OTHER 75% Muslims who are Asian and African.

Do they all have the same koran? It’s a serious question. I know that Catholics and Protestants have slightly different bibles. Neither of which advocate the lopping of infidel heads.


26 posted on 12/09/2015 12:37:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The Donald is the PC Heretic-In-Chief™


27 posted on 12/09/2015 12:40:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Stingray51

That is, no foreigner has the right to immigrate to the United States and we could, without offending the Constitution, exclude all redheads or all fat people or whomever we wanted, without any constitutional limitation

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I believe that it’s time to stop all immigration. It’s been done before.


28 posted on 12/09/2015 12:41:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I vote no more Muslims forever and cut immigration to about 25,000 per year period. No exceptions.


29 posted on 12/09/2015 12:41:40 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Speaking the truth now disqualifies a person from the Presidency.

Speaking the truth is now considered heresy.

30 posted on 12/09/2015 12:42:24 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Question to the pseudo lawyers in the MSM, how is the enforcement of Sharia Law by an American Muslim Imam, practicing freedom of religion, compatible with the US. Constitution? Enforcement of Sharia Law means death to Infidels, now what?


31 posted on 12/09/2015 12:44:43 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: cloudmountain
Jihad in Malaysia:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/malaysia-muslim-group-declares-jihad-against-christians

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/thailand-muslims-murder-buddhist-monk-and-nine-year-old-child-in-jihad-raids

Videos of Malaysian Jihadists in Syria.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jihad+in+malaysia&qpvt=jihad+in+malaysia&FORM=VQFRML

32 posted on 12/09/2015 12:54:49 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: ctdonath2

I’m not he one cherry picking. You are siting 2 different clauses and attempting to apply the one concerning the Sec of States power over foreign officials to this clause which defines the powers of the President.

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any
class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the
interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such
period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or
any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the
entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.


33 posted on 12/09/2015 1:36:19 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: MNJohnnie

Don’t get me wrong. I’m honestly trying to work thru the objective realities of this thing (without spending hours playing lawyer).


34 posted on 12/09/2015 1:40:42 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Chgogal
Jihad in Malaysia

Yep. No Arabs there, just oriental Asians.

I wonder just how long the Malaysian government will put up with that. Jihad destroys an economy, farming, manufacturing, everything. Malaysia can't afford that.

35 posted on 12/09/2015 2:03:27 PM PST by cloudmountain
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