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Trump on meeting with black pastors: 'I saw love in that room'
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Posted on 11/30/2015 1:28:25 PM PST by dynoman

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To: erod

Now you adding hominem attack. It’s not about me, it is about primary source proof.


61 posted on 11/30/2015 5:27:55 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Wait a minute, LOL.

Yesterday I showed you the CNN article which proved that the claim of 100 endorsements came from the Trump campaign.

You blew it off due to the source...in fact, your words were, “Did Trump say it or did CNN say it?”

But today, because you think it benefits Trump, CNN is just fine as a source...fine enough for YOU to use.

You can’t make this stuff up, LOL.

(Did you get a blue screen again?)”

Without a primary source document that article proved nothing. That is the point. Obviously without a primary source document my question still stands.


62 posted on 11/30/2015 5:35:25 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
"That is not a primary source."

Comedy gold, I tell you

63 posted on 11/30/2015 5:36:40 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: dynoman
So the multiple news outlets that are posting the claim from from Trump's press release are all lying then?

Look-e here I got this quote from a business insider article:

Last Wednesday, Trump's campaign announced to reporters that it would be holding a Monday-afternoon "press conference," and that he would be "joined by a coalition of 100 African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders who will endorse the GOP front-runner after a private meeting."

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-black-lives-matter-pastors-2015-11

Or how about this one from Politico?

The campaign originally announced the press conference in a press release on Wednesday, writing, “Trump will be joined by a coalition of 100 African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders who will endorse the GOP front-runner after a private meeting at Trump Tower.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-black-clergy-216245

Here's one from The New York Times

Donald J. Trump will take the next step in his religious outreach effort next week when he announces the endorsement of a group of 100 African-American pastors and religious leaders at his Manhattan headquarters.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/25/black-pastors-expected-to-endorse-donald-trump/

Does Fox News have something about the 100 pastors, why yes they do!

JERSEY CITY, N.J. – Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has cancelled a press conference in which his campaign said he would be endorsed by as many as 100 black evangelical religious leaders. Many of those invited to the event say they had no intention of endorsing the billionaire businessman and former reality television star.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/29/trump-campaign-cancels-event-to-showcase-endorsements-from-blacks-pastors-after/

Oh, how about this one from my favorite conservative news channel OAN?

Trump sent out word to media outlets last week that he would hold an early afternoon news conference Monday to announce the endorsement of his campaign by “100 African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders…after a private meeting.”

http://www.oann.com/trump-cancels-event-with-black-pastors-after-other-clergy-raise-concerns/

So, no I don't have the press release, but from working in the media I know that not all press releases are posted online unless a campaign wants the public to see it. But, I have multiple sources for your discernment including one very conservative one, OAN, that has been very fair and glowing in its coverage of Trump. So either all these outlets are lying about Trump's claim last Wednesday or your conspiracy theory doesn't hold water? I'll go with the latter.

64 posted on 11/30/2015 5:45:56 PM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Any source that quotes another source is obviously not a primary source; it is a secondary source. Post the primary source document the article references - the primary cource either exists or it doesn’t. If it does, it should be easy to find and post.


65 posted on 11/30/2015 5:47:35 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: erod

If multiple sources quoted a press release the original press release should be easy to find and post. Seems like a pretty simple concept to execute.


66 posted on 11/30/2015 5:50:44 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: erod

“your conspiracy theory”

Another logical fallacy. My conspiracy theory? What is my conspiracy theory? I don’t know what it is, you act like you know, you are making it personal, so tell me.

All I’m doing is asking for a primary source document. What is so wrong with asking for a primary source document? That is the basis for coherent research and the foundation for rational conclusions.


67 posted on 11/30/2015 5:58:44 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
I post multiple sources conservative and liberal, I even post the URLs from those articles that I referenced. All of them mention in the excerpts I provided To the articles that you can visit yourself from post that originally 100 black were pastors coming out and endorsing Trump from a press release sent out Wednesday from his campaign! So, all these quotes and stories are malarkey then? Do you ask for a press release for every news story that breaks, when multiple sources are reporting it? And a reputable news source such as, OAN and Fox News are all just lying through their teeth about what Trump said.

When I was reporting you needed a minimum of two sources to confirm a story, I just provided you with 5 sources from major news outlets using the Trump's press release as a source.

You sir are too much! LOL

68 posted on 11/30/2015 6:05:30 PM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: erod

“When I was reporting you needed a minimum of two sources to confirm a story, I just provided you with 5 sources from major news outlets using the Trump’s press release as a source.”

How do you know all had Trumps alleged press release? You don’t know that.

Two MSM sources confirm a story as absolute objective truth? Are you serious?

Why not use a primary source like the press release to confirm the story? Wow what a concept. That would clear everything up. But apparently the MSM secondary sources can’t do that, and neither can anyone here.

I searched for the exact words used in the alleged press release, in quotes, and none of the sources quoted show up. Interesting to say the least. I don’t trust the MSM and believe everything they publish needs to be vehemently fact checked. That is done by drilling down to primary sources - in this case the press release.


69 posted on 11/30/2015 6:23:41 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: erod; dynoman

Even IF I didn’t have plenty of reasons for not supporting Trump, it’s this kind of craziness from some of his supporters that would prevent me from doing so, LOL.

I mean, it’s unreal!


70 posted on 11/30/2015 6:25:37 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon; erod

Since when is asking for a primary source crazy or unreal?

Seems pretty bizarre to not demand primary source material over unverified MSM memes - especially here on FR.


71 posted on 11/30/2015 7:12:06 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Gratia

Don Lemon said on CNN tonight that Trump was the topic of many vocal black Thanksgiving Dinners across the nation. He’s not the first I’ve heard say that.


72 posted on 11/30/2015 7:46:05 PM PST by topfile
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To: topfile; erod; Theo
"Don Lemon said on CNN tonight that Trump was the topic of many vocal black Thanksgiving Dinners across the nation. He’s not the first I’ve heard say that."

Trump was indirectly involved with our own Thanksgiving.

My inlaws had been sort of/kind of leaning toward him, but they took a break and went to Myrtle Beach for a couple of weeks, on Thanksgiving I received an email from my MIL.

They heard Ted Cruz speak at a church in SC, and they were extremely impressed. MIL said that he is the ultimate conservtive candidate, exactly the man we need in the White House. They made a donation, and they're completely on board the Cruz train.

Frankly I'm excited, because my FIL is a business leader in the community, and they've always been very involved in politics.

73 posted on 12/01/2015 6:29:21 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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