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Attorney: Flawed prosecution theory will cost county millions in Twin Peaks biker cases [Waco]
Waco Herald-Tribune ^ | November 16, 2015 | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

Posted on 11/17/2015 5:05:41 AM PST by don-o

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Sealed indictments. Hmmmmm.....
1 posted on 11/17/2015 5:05:41 AM PST by don-o
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To: don-o

The same rubber-stamp mass-indictment could just as easily be turned against conservatives, say at a Tea Party rally where violence broke out. Even if the violence was caused by govt agents-provocateurs.


2 posted on 11/17/2015 5:08:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: don-o

Speedy trials don’t seem to be in the offing.


3 posted on 11/17/2015 5:12:18 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: don-o

“Houston attorney Paul C. Looney, who represents Cody Ledbetter”

Can Cody sing well?

http://www.biography.com/people/lead-belly-39541

Huddie Ledbetter, better known as “Lead Belly,” was born in the late 1880s..

In December 1917, Ledbetter was arrested and charged with murder and was found guilty. Prison is where it seems he picked up the nickname Lead Belly. In early 1924, only a few years into a 20-year sentence, Lead Belly sang for Texas governor Pat Neff a song in which he asked for a pardon. A year later, Neff pardoned Lead Belly and he was a free man.

Only five years later, Lead Belly was involved in a stabbing incident that led to “assault with intent to murder” charges and another prison sentence. Budget issues causes by the Great Depression allowed him to apply for early release, which he did, and the sitting governor approved the application in 1934. (He also sang a song to this governor, pleading for release.)...


4 posted on 11/17/2015 5:14:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: don-o
Looney's motion says the state's theory that the bikers are guilty by "arriving at Twin Peaks for a bike-club informational meeting" while wearing motorcycle jackets bearing insignias of either Cossacks or Bandidos in "a show of force for a criminal street gang" can't be supported by the evidence.

I remember, once upon a time, a country where there was the right of assembly and freedom of association.

5 posted on 11/17/2015 5:16:30 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: don-o

“Nine of those indictments were sealed because the defendants had not yet been arrested. Three of those bikers named in sealed indictments turned themselves in to the county jail Monday and the indictments were unsealed.”

So thy cops arrested everyone in sight at TP and even people that weren’t there(but in Waco) and still didn’t get everyone that was billed by the grand jury? What a fiasco.


6 posted on 11/17/2015 5:19:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: Travis McGee

B I N G O !

That fear should be on everyone’s mind.


7 posted on 11/17/2015 5:26:54 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Tupelo

Yep.


8 posted on 11/17/2015 5:27:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Prosecutors have become recklessly cavalier and indolent as all the “homeland security” legislation such as AEDPA has eroded traditional Anglo-American standards of criminal law. This DA’s office just bit off way more than it can chew, and this case will turn into a mosh pit of insufficient evidence, credible alibis and affirmative defenses. It will indeed be a white elephant for the county.


9 posted on 11/17/2015 5:38:10 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Flick Lives
I remember, once upon a time, a country where there was the right of assembly and freedom of association.

Sounds vaguely familiar. Where was that again?
< /sarc>

10 posted on 11/17/2015 5:42:02 AM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Travis McGee

A majority of FReepers who participate in these threads, I believe, understand that.

When the matter went past 48 hours and bonds were set at $1,000,000 the red flag went up. When I learned that all 177 were arrested on IDENTICAL affidavits of probable cause, another red flag went up.

When I learned that Abelino Reyna had dictated that affidavit, it pretty well confirmed to me that the fix was in and they were doing it in plain sight.

When the gag order was issued, then overturned, then reinstated, I knew that the usual suspects were indeed in place and fulfilling their roles.

It is a hopeful sign that defense attorneys are raising the right points when they dare to speak aloud.


11 posted on 11/17/2015 5:46:09 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Sounds like some of the 9 were wounded and in the hospital.


12 posted on 11/17/2015 5:46:37 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Why did that stop their arrests? Makes no sense.


13 posted on 11/17/2015 5:59:57 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: don-o

And how much more will it cost if everyone requests a jury trial?


14 posted on 11/17/2015 6:00:27 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Rick Chollett for President!)
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enough to bankrupt the county. Not to mention the time it would take. I doubt their courts have the bandwidth.


15 posted on 11/17/2015 6:09:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Why did that stop their arrests? Makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense dummy...county jail isn't equipped to be a hospital ward.

16 posted on 11/17/2015 6:17:30 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: rfreedom4u

Looney cites $1000 - $1500 per hour of court time. And that does not include costs associated with change of venue.


17 posted on 11/17/2015 6:17:39 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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It makes perfect sense dummy...

There we go! A great gambit for mutually respectful discussion of the specifics and suspicions. /s

18 posted on 11/17/2015 6:24:01 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: mac_truck
Well there snow flake suspected felons are placed under arrest in hospitals all the time. Some hospitals even have detention wards. So by your logic all's you have to do to escape being arrested is to injury yourself to the point of hospitalization. Right? That all you got? You are an idiot and once again proved it for all to see.
19 posted on 11/17/2015 6:27:24 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: don-o

>>
McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna said the remaining 80 cases from the Twin Peaks melee will be handled “in one form or fashion.”
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What happened to the obligation for a speedy trial? There must be something in the water in this county, because this is not the first time that government has lost its mind and gone to war against its citizens. A number of the victims from the previous debacle are still in prison for non-murder.


20 posted on 11/17/2015 6:34:30 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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