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NY Times: How Gun Traffickers Get Around State Gun Laws
NY Times ^ | November 13, 2015 | Gregor Aisch and Josh Keller

Posted on 11/13/2015 3:16:38 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: Zakeet

It looks like the only problem shown on the map is that there are high concentrations of liberals in some parts of the nation. Where there are liberals there is a clear and constant danger of too many people who are a danger to those around them.
This map is screaming for voter registration overlays, public corruption overlays and drug trafficking overlays.
Guns are the least of their problems, but they are inanimate objects that don’t vote or contribute to campaigns.


21 posted on 11/13/2015 5:43:23 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Zakeet

already illegal, let them enforce the laws they already have....no, not good enough for them


22 posted on 11/13/2015 5:54:01 AM PST by dila813
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To: Zakeet

The New York Times truthful and honest reporting NOT.


23 posted on 11/13/2015 6:04:56 AM PST by TYVets
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To: GreyHoundSailor

It used to be a federal crime (1968 GCL)to buy any gun in one state if you live in another. Now you can buy a rifle or shotgun in one state if you live in another provided the state you live in allows such firearms.

It is still illegal to buy Handguns in one state if you live in a different state.


24 posted on 11/13/2015 6:09:30 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: USNBandit

People forget that FELONS are not required to register their firearms. SCOTUS says so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States


25 posted on 11/13/2015 6:11:18 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: GreyHoundSailor

What the poster is trying to say is that it is illegal to buy a gun in one state, when you live in another without the services of an FFL. Your case seems to be you lived in the same state you bought the gun in, then you moved to another state, taking your gun with you. That is legal.


26 posted on 11/13/2015 6:44:41 AM PST by gusty
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To: GreyHoundSailor

When you were on active duty stationed in a certain state, weren’t you living in that state for some period of time? Wouldn’t that make you a resident of that state for the purpose of the laws, and then when you moved elsewhere there should have been no issue.

But then IANAL (but I did once have concurrent residence in two different states and was able to buy firearms in both states).


27 posted on 11/13/2015 6:45:15 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: USNBandit

I resoectfully disagree


28 posted on 11/13/2015 6:57:00 AM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: marktwain
One of the simplest weapons to make is the Sten type sub-machinegun
29 posted on 11/13/2015 7:00:20 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
While on active duty stationed in one state I purchased a rifle and took it with me to a follow-on assignment in another state. You’re claiming that’s a federal crime?

Assuming that the rifle purchased was not capable of fully automatic fire and had a barrel length meeting the minimum requirement, as long as the rifle remained in your possession you are OK. Giving it away (to a relative) or swapping it (at a gun show) is not clearly defined. If you were to sell your rifle in your new state of residency it could be considered a 'straw man purchase' unless you happened to be a licensed firearms dealer.

Regards,
GtG

30 posted on 11/13/2015 7:52:40 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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To: Zakeet
#You May Be A Communard If

You excuse the failure of gun control because of the 'surrounding areas' but can't explain why guns aren't a problem in those same 'surrounding areas'.

31 posted on 11/13/2015 8:12:46 AM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Oratam

One only need look at the ‘fall-out’ from the recent CA pier shootings’ failure to enforce and prosecute from the State AND the Fed: Jack and sh!t for either.

IIRC, both 2x-down on stupid in trying to blame the other; and, as of today, NOBODY has done a thing, been held accountable, fined let alone JAILED.

Yet, the back bulb is burnt out on the car, or you fill a ditch on your property....


32 posted on 11/13/2015 9:40:20 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: USNBandit
"Sorry, but deliver of guns to felons should be prosecuted."

And no legal gun owner will disagree with you on that. But first you gotta ketch'em, and then the prosecutor has to do his (or her) job....which is where things mostly break down. This is one of those that usually gets "plea-bargained" away.

33 posted on 11/13/2015 11:00:20 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Zakeet
In response to mass shootings in the last few years, more than 20 states, including some of the nation's biggest, have passed new laws restricting how people can buy and carry guns. Yet the effect of those laws has been significantly diluted by a thriving underground market for firearms brought from states with few restrictions.

Proving that regulations and laws don't keep criminals from getting guns and committing crimes - it only effect honest law abiding citizens. Like me, who in NYS cannot buy and have ammo shipped to me. So I need to drive 100 miles to buy hard to find ammo instead of having it shipped - thx Cuomo you idiot.

34 posted on 11/13/2015 11:04:12 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: GreyHoundSailor
"While on active duty stationed in one state I purchased a rifle and took it with me to a follow-on assignment in another state. You’re claiming that’s a federal crime?"

No. But if you had been stationed in (for example) Virginia, and drove to (for example) Kentucky, bought a gun, and then drove back to Virginia, it would have been.

As I understand it, the way it works is that you MUST go to a licensed firearms dealer in Kentucky, have him ship the gun to a licensed dealer in Virginia, and you pick it up there. Don't know which of the FFL's has to do the background check, but one must happen.

Now, I think the above is totally stupid, but legislators pass a lot of totally stupid laws.

35 posted on 11/13/2015 11:06:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; All

“It is still illegal to buy Handguns in one state if you live in a different state.”

Except for Dallas, Texas, where a federal judge ruled that part of the Gun Control Act of 1968 to be unconstitutional.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/02/federal-ban-on-interstate-sale-of.html


36 posted on 11/13/2015 1:14:11 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Wonder Warthog

That’s actually what I said in my first post


37 posted on 11/13/2015 1:47:31 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Not to beat a dead horse, but residency doesn’t change wrt active duty military - domicile does. I had several domiciles across the country over the years and could legally purchase handguns, rifles or shotguns with a copy of my orders. My only residence remained the state I entered active duty from because I made no effort to change it. One of the benefits of the Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief Act.


38 posted on 11/13/2015 2:24:35 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: GreyHoundSailor
Thanks for clearing that up and thanks for your service!

Regards,
GtG

39 posted on 11/15/2015 11:11:12 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
It is still illegal to buy Handguns in one state if you live in a different state.

If you buy from a Federally Licensed Firearms dealer he can ship it to a similarly licensed dealer in your home state for a small S&H fee.

Regards,
GtG

40 posted on 11/15/2015 11:19:32 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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