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F-23 — The Super Fighter America Never Built
The National Interest ^
| November 12, 2015
| Dave Majumdar
Posted on 11/13/2015 2:50:19 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: equaviator
Why don’t you state some actual figures and comparisons to other aircraft if you are so much smarter and knowledgeable?
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posted on
11/13/2015 8:49:41 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: hattend
Boeing's "Monica" never had a chance. Boeing's Monica was part of the Joint Strike Fighter fly-off, not the Advanced Tactical Fighter fly-off.
But no, it never had a chance.
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posted on
11/13/2015 8:56:23 AM PST
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: Moonman62; equaviator
I’m better than both of you.
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posted on
11/13/2015 8:59:36 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
To: Moonman62
For who, you? You’re the only one asking for anything. Forget you, man. Find it yourself.
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posted on
11/13/2015 8:59:54 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:00:54 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: equaviator
Way better. Cuter and faster too.
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:05:21 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
To: equaviator
That Photo looks like the backdrop is Wright Patt near Dayton.
To: Yo-Yo
Yeah, realized that after I posted but you can’t edit like in Facebook.
My bad.
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:13:59 AM PST
by
hattend
(Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
To: Lazamataz
I’ll let you be the judge of that!
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:24:01 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: taildragger
As a boy, I was so struck by the odd, coke bottle shape, pinched fuselage of the F-106 that I researched the reason for it. From then on, area rule design stuck in my mind. Only years later did I realize the full significance of transonic and supersonic wave drag.
The "poor man's area rule" deals with interference drag, which is a different form of drag that includes subsonic performance. It too has an effect on aircraft shape and accounts for some odd and inventive if ugly aircraft designs.
Notably, Richard Whitcomb's insight into the area rule principle was anticipated by German work in the closing years of WW II. Mercifully, the war ended before it could be incorporated into Nazi Germany's jet aircraft.
To: equaviator
I love you. You are definitely not a commie.
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:25:55 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
To: Lazamataz
Smarter maybe, but I’m better looking.
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:28:32 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
Nah. You have a pancake face.
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posted on
11/13/2015 9:43:34 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
To: Lazamataz
No I don't.
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posted on
11/13/2015 10:00:09 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Rockingham
"the odd, coke bottle shape, pinched fuselage of the F-106 that I researched the reason for it."
Actually, it was the F-102, also by Convair, that first featured the Coke bottle-shaped fuselage. That design change enabled the Delta Dagger to reach Mach 1 and beyond. The F-106 Delta Dart followed the same general shape but was bigger in every way, except perhaps for the tail fin's surface area. Bigger yet was the B-58 Hustler.
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posted on
11/13/2015 10:11:28 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Much as I root for Northrop, I have to agree the AF did right by selecting the superior dogfighter. The long range, high speed interceptor only mistake has been made before.
But, since the F-23 is already designed, ya never know how useful a few could be.
To: equaviator
Remember reading about the embarassment of the first F-102 not being able to go supersonic. Heck, design a plane that looks like that, then not be able to outrun a F-86?
The area rule breakthrough was a BFD.
To: doorgunner69
“The area rule breakthrough was a BFD.”
Copy that!
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posted on
11/13/2015 10:43:49 AM PST
by
equaviator
(There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
To: equaviator
A nice (and merited) tip of the hat to the F-102, which I had for some reason forgotten about, and to the B-58, a remarkable aircraft for its time. Convair plainly believed in area rule and the delta wing.
To: jaydubya2
Yes. That’s the Air Force Museum in the background.
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posted on
11/13/2015 1:33:17 PM PST
by
Fundamentally Fair
(Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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