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Get Big Government Out of High School Locker Rooms
Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2015 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 11/08/2015 6:23:25 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: jurroppi1

Debra doesn’t want to be insensitive. However, I think she - and every even-slightly-conservative writer who uses “she” for a boy - is missing an opportunity to make a stand while being genuinely polite.

A lot of unnecessarily rude and unkind language is directed at transformers, and I don’t think that’s helpful in any way. However, to refer to a biologically male person as a boy/man/he/him, and a biologically female person as girl/woman/she/her, is simply recognizing reality. It is also charitable, just as it’s charitable to refer to anyone with a delusion by his or her real identity.


21 posted on 11/08/2015 6:46:28 AM PST by Tax-chick (You have 20 days to get ready for the Advent Kitteh!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The kid should be in a mental institution, NOT a high school.

IIRC many of them suicide in a few years!
We had one in our building at work, and had to attend too many classes on the subject.

For the transition period he to she was provided a special washroom. The women were going to mutiny if it was allowed in their rooms!

About two years, dead by his/her own hand.

22 posted on 11/08/2015 6:47:14 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The decendents of 0bama)
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To: Bernard

Sorry, “carbon-based” is not PC...climate change and all that. Maybe “accidental, resource-devouring, animated, multi-celled protoplasm”


23 posted on 11/08/2015 6:47:17 AM PST by twister881
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24 posted on 11/08/2015 6:47:35 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: jurroppi1
Excellent point.

Debra should have uses quotation marks for "her" and "she" when she was referring to the student.

25 posted on 11/08/2015 6:49:26 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

“She” will always be a biological male regardless of the surgery and hormones to hide the fact. I wonder just how many if any kids referred to the gender bender therapists by loony parents are ever sent home without being diagnosed as being the wrong sex? I think there is a whole industry of therapists and doctors who for the money perpetuate this BS about kids being a gender other than the one they were born with.


26 posted on 11/08/2015 6:49:47 AM PST by The Great RJ (�Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.� Margaret Thatcher)
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To: proud American in Canada

I actually live in Palatine. Even though we live in the boundaries of this HS, my wife and I decided to send our kids to St. Viator in Arlington Heights. It was a bit farther but the best decision we have ever made.

As for parents leaving the public school system, I’m not sure what would be their alternative. The Catholic and christian academies have waiting lists.

I agree things have really changed in the area...some good, some bad. My belief most of the bad is from more intrusion of the Feds.


27 posted on 11/08/2015 6:58:14 AM PST by twoputt
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To: jurroppi1

Same with “gay”. Refuse to use that word, I call them homosexuals every time. Is that offensive to them? Do you think I will get sued and loose my job/business and then my home?


28 posted on 11/08/2015 7:04:38 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Kaslin

This will last long enough for a decent kid that plays say basketball - good but not real good - declaring himself a ‘her’ and trying out for the basketball team. Will be hard to not accept him as he is ‘good’ enough to make at least the boys JV team, if not the Varsity.
One of the ‘arguments’ they used to use was about showering and changing in the same locker room.

How can the High Schools and Olympic committees BAN someone that claims to be another ‘type’?

In a ‘sane’ society it would be one way or the other, NOT whatever is on the mind of the clown in charge at any given moment.

Years ago there was a cartoon (Tank McNamara - I think) that had a ‘Black’ character paint himself White as he was considered an outstanding player as a ‘White’ but mediocre as a ‘Black’.
Also a ‘joke’ around that time that had a ‘Black’ kid paint himself ‘White’ and go home and his father ‘kicked his arse’ with the kid screaming ‘My friends are right, I been ‘White’ for 6 hours and I hate you ‘n.......’ already.
OTOH, what do we expect?

‘We’ celebrated a Bruce calling himself Caitlin, then getting named woman of the year (GREAT cartoon-
What gender/pay problem?...Bruce Jenner got 50 thou a speech and Caitlin gets 2 mill??), a White woman gets praised for declaring herself black etc etc etc etc

Military today filled with the ‘types’ WE wanted to get away from back in the 40s/50s/60s etc, the ‘do funnys’, the ‘weirdos’, nagging mothers and sisters etc etc etc


29 posted on 11/08/2015 7:06:00 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." --Voltaire".)
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To: samtheman

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30 posted on 11/08/2015 7:32:31 AM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: Kaslin

Easy fix. All normals quit sports. He can do everything he wants, wherever.


31 posted on 11/08/2015 7:36:15 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: twister881
"What happens when the parent-propelled perv, still with his male naughty bits, gets into the shower with the girls and pops a woodie?"

If that happens, he is DEFINITELY not a girl.

32 posted on 11/08/2015 7:39:55 AM PST by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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To: twister881

“What happens when the parent-propelled perv, still with his male naughty bits, gets into the shower with the girls and pops a woodie?”

Just hope if that happens that one of the ladies there has a straight razor available!


33 posted on 11/08/2015 7:42:05 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Kaslin
It must take immense courage for a teenager to announce to the world that, even though she was born with male anatomy, inside she knows she is a girl.

This is not "courage". It is psychosis.

Every single opposing team for the 'girls' sports teams this young man with a delusion plays against should sue. If he is involved in any sports related incident or accident where another player is hurt, the hurt player should sue. Males - even those on female steroids - are (generally) physically stronger than females of the same size, and therefore the opposing players are at higher risk of injury, even within the rules of the various games.

And the idiot quoted in the article from Title IX (I think) should simply be tazed into a coma, and left there.

34 posted on 11/08/2015 7:47:22 AM PST by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: Arm_Bears

Maybe you can succeed, since we hadn’t had a president since 2009, we had a king...


35 posted on 11/08/2015 7:48:16 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: The Great RJ

True, but a few people DO have issues like XXY, XXXY, and others..however, it isn’t 25%...


36 posted on 11/08/2015 7:53:08 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: thirst4truth

In today’s hyper-sensitive PC culture one old axiom still rings true (perhaps truer than ever if that is even possible since truth is truth): “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act”.

Of course that means telling the truth comes with ever higher prices as society dives further into delusion.

I guess you probably know the answer to your question.

Keep your powder dry my FRiend ;)


37 posted on 11/08/2015 8:27:20 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Tax-chick

hear, hear!


38 posted on 11/08/2015 8:28:55 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jurroppi1

Very good post. From the safe anonymity of our keyboards, we should practice the simple but revolutionary step of referring to a male person as “he” and a female person as “she.” Having done that, we might be in the habit of it should we ever have to deal with a transformer in real life.

Most of us probably won’t. You’d think, from all the fuss, that half the country was cross-dressing, but there really aren’t that many.


39 posted on 11/08/2015 8:37:43 AM PST by Tax-chick (You have 20 days to get ready for the Advent Kitteh!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
About two years, dead by his/her own hand.

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Good article (note: go to link, copy title, put it in browser, then click on the article in the results to get past the 'wall'):

Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution A drastic physical change doesn't address underlying psycho-social troubles.

Excerpts:

With body dysmorphic disorder, an often socially crippling condition, the individual is consumed by the assumption "I'm ugly." These disorders occur in subjects who have come to believe that some of their psycho-social conflicts or problems will be resolved if they can change the way that they appear to others. Such ideas work like ruling passions in their subjects' minds and tend to be accompanied by a solipsistic argument.

For the transgendered, this argument holds that one's feeling of "gender" is a conscious, subjective sense that, being in one's mind, cannot be questioned by others. The individual often seeks not just society's tolerance of this "personal truth" but affirmation of it. Here rests the support for "transgender equality," the demands for government payment for medical and surgical treatments, and for access to all sex-based public roles and privileges.

We at Johns Hopkins University - which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into "sex-reassignment surgery" - launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as "satisfied" by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn't have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a "satisfied" but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.

It now appears that our long-ago decision was a wise one. A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered, evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study - up to 30 years - followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population. This disturbing result has as yet no explanation but probably reflects the growing sense of isolation reported by the aging transgendered after surgery. The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription.

40 posted on 11/08/2015 8:46:29 AM PST by Qiviut
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