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It is here: Court ruling paves way for mass confiscation of firearms in America
Intellihub ^ | 22OCT2015 | Alex Thomas

Posted on 10/24/2015 8:15:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

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To: Nero Germanicus

“The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior” U.S. Const. art III


101 posted on 10/25/2015 4:24:51 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I do not believe I will be alive in ten years time.

Many will join me.

102 posted on 10/25/2015 4:27:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Parini gets to the crux of his and the many who share his views on the lefts agenda which is the confiscation of millions of legally owned firearms under the threat of government attack and subsequent outlawing of all handguns and rifles.

"Let me dream for a moment: I would much prefer to live in a country where only hunters who pass appropriately strict tests for mental competence and a knowledge of gun safety can still acquire rifles that are appropriate for hunting. Handguns and assault rifles would be banned, period." Banned. Period. There you have it folks, CNN letting a hard left authoritarian use their platform to “dream” about disarming America. It gets worse.

"So let’s get rid of guns in this country, once and for all, making it a felony to possess a handgun or assault rifle. Over a period of years, illegal guns will gradually disappear. Guns don’t kill people, as they say. People who acquire guns — legally or illegally — do. And we should make it extremely difficult for them to get their hands on these weapons."

I have chosen a first target.

103 posted on 10/25/2015 4:35:24 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m sort of thinking it paves the way for a lot of new replacement judges
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My first thought also.


104 posted on 10/25/2015 4:41:28 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Lazamataz

The media? That’s a big target!


105 posted on 10/25/2015 6:46:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Ray76

“Good behavior” does not include how they rule on cases. Throughout the entire history of the nation every attempt to remove judges from office via impeachment for how they decided cases (other than personally profitting from a judgement) has failed.
Judges have been removed or they have resigned for corruption and for personal behavior failings.

For example, in 2010 a Clinton Judge was impeached and removed:
Gabriel Thomas Porteous, Jr.
Article I - engaging in a pattern of conduct that is incompatible with the trust and confidence placed in him as a Federal judge - Passed the House by a vote of 412-0.
Article II - engaged in a longstanding pattern of corrupt conduct that demonstrates his unfitness to serve as a United States District Court Judge - Passed the House by a vote of 410-0.
Article III - knowingly and intentionally making false statements, under penalty of perjury, related to his personal bankruptcy filing and violating a bankruptcy court order - Passed the House by a vote of 416-0.
Article IV - knowingly made material false statements about his past to both the United States Senate and to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in order to obtain the office of United States District Court Judge - Passed the House by a vote of 423-0.


106 posted on 10/25/2015 8:03:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
“Replacement” by whom? Federal judges have lifetime appointments.

That is not even a problem for the sort of replacing I was thinking they might trigger.

107 posted on 10/25/2015 9:16:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

So you want Barack Obama to be able to appoint even more federal judges than the 315 judges that he has already had confirmed?
I doubt that.


108 posted on 10/25/2015 10:02:44 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Who is going to do the confiscating? I’ve spoken with the local sheriff, he nor his deputies will do it. I have lots of friends active and retired military, they won’t do it. UN troops will be shot onsite, same as black panthers and black lives matters scum.

So who wants to try? Whomever tries confiscation will not live long. Any attempt at confiscation will start the coming unpleasantness.

I know liberals are idiots. Are they really THIS stupid? They have no idea what’s in store for them if they try. They think they are insulated from this. They are NOT.


109 posted on 10/26/2015 5:36:33 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Leftists are irrational and will do irrational things. Logic isn’t their best subject.


110 posted on 10/26/2015 5:40:50 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Nero Germanicus
So you want Barack Obama to be able to appoint even more federal judges than the 315 judges that he has already had confirmed? I doubt that.

Sometimes I just don't know what to think about you. You seem not to have the ability to understand what "replacing judges" means in the context of a discussion about Judges taking away our guns.

Perhaps Alexander Solzhenitsyn can explain it to you.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

111 posted on 10/26/2015 7:20:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Ah, I get it now. We’re in DiogenesLamp’s Fantasyworld.


112 posted on 10/26/2015 8:32:36 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

> “Good behavior” does not include how they rule on cases.

I made no such assertion.


113 posted on 10/26/2015 9:19:52 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Jack Hydrazine

How will that work? This isn’t Australia or England.
There isn’t enough Police or Military to go door to door to get all the guns in this country.

Same argument that Trump gets on his Illegal Immigration deportation idea, yet that is doable compared to this.

Does the Almighty Government think people are just going to surrender their fire arms on the whim of a Court Decision or a Act of Congress, I don’t think so.

This is one reason people should not have a Concealed Carry, that is the first place they will go for guns, they have you on file.

With over 300 Million fire arms in this country it is a lost cause before it begins. I want to see those brave police or military cross 110th Street in New York to take away guns, it will be ugly and bloody.


114 posted on 10/26/2015 9:26:07 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Ray76

Good.


115 posted on 10/26/2015 10:17:48 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

You asserted “Federal judges have lifetime appointments”, which is inaccurate.


116 posted on 10/26/2015 10:20:00 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76

66 federal judges have been investigated for removal from office over the last 219 years. Less than 10 have actually been removed.

Here’s what the Federal Judicial Center has to say on the topic:
QUESTION: Why are some federal judges protected from losing their jobs and having their pay cut?
Federal judges appointed under Article III of the Constitution are guaranteed what amounts to LIFE TENURE and unreduced salary so that they won’t be afraid to make an unpopular decision. For example, in Gregg v. Georgia, the Supreme Court said it is constitutional for the federal and state governments to impose the death penalty if the statute is carefully drafted to provide adequate safeguards, even though many people are opposed to the death penalty.

The constitutional protection that gives federal judges the freedom and independence to make decisions that are politically and socially unpopular is one of the basic elements of our democracy. According to the Declaration of Independence, one reason the American colonies wanted to separate from England was that King George III “made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.”

QUESTION: For judges who are APPOINTED FOR LIFE, what safeguards ensure that they remain fair and impartial?

Judges must follow the ethical standards set out in the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, which contains guidelines to make sure a judge does not preside over a case in which he or she has any reason to favor one side over the other. For example, a judge must withdraw or recuse himself or herself from any case in which a close relative is a party, or in which he or she has any financial interest, however remote. Judges are required to file a financial disclosure form annually, so that all their stock holdings, board memberships, and other financial interests are on public record. They must be careful not to do anything that might cause people to think they would favor one side in a case over another. For this reason, they can’t give speeches urging voters to pick one candidate over another for public office or ask people to contribute money to civic organizations. Judges WITHOUT LIFE TENURE are also subject to the Code of Conduct for United States Judges.

When do judges retire?
Most federal judges retire from full-time service at around sixty-five or seventy years of age and become senior judges. Senior judges are still federal judges, eligible to earn their full salary and to continue hearing cases if they and their colleagues want them to do so, but they usually maintain a reduced caseload. Full-time judges are known as active judges.

http://www.fjc.gov/federal/courts.nsf/autoframe!openform&nav=menu1&page=/federal/courts.nsf/page/183.


117 posted on 10/26/2015 11:15:17 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

None of which changes the inaccuracy of your statement.


118 posted on 10/26/2015 11:19:13 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Nero Germanicus
Ah, I get it now. We’re in DiogenesLamp’s Fantasyworld.

Not at all. We are heading towards the usual and normal dystopia resulting from Liberal ideas failing... Again.

We have witnessed their collapse in all other places where they have been tried, but we have never witnessed their collapse in a place with the character and independence of the United States. Our culture is different from those Monarchist/Socialist nations that have suffered socialism before.

I predict the more cowboy-like mentality of the US citizenry will result in a very different sort of response to socialist despots if and when a widespread crises occurs.

119 posted on 10/26/2015 12:26:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ray76

You can pick that nit.
I’m happy to revise my statement to 99.9% of federal judges since 1796 have served lifetime appointments or until they chose to retire.


120 posted on 10/26/2015 12:29:28 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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