Posted on 10/21/2015 11:49:36 AM PDT by Isara
Hey, you asked and I told you.
The “list” would be of conservative values, priorities and general beliefs. One who does not believe in the lions share of these core beliefs is probably not a conservative.
Kasich, for example, believes himself to be a conservative but in reality he is not as evidenced by his words and actions. Many Republicans would fall into this category.
Read the “ammendment” that he is referring to Sparky. Then we’ll talk.
The amendment essentially barred illegals from getting "citizenship," but did not touch legalization, which, by the way, leads to citizenship inevitably. This is Cruz's position still to this day, despite his obfuscations.
Did they meet in a phone booth?
NumbersUSA gives Cruz an A+ on every immigration issue except anchor babies which Cruz has since come out against. Again from NumbersUSA,
This is simply false. Even on birthright citizenship, Cruz affirms that the 14th amendment grants citizenship to illegals. Cruz's "solution" is a constitutional amendment process (not Trump's method), which he called hopeless and vain in 2013, though never explaining why he's flipped into thinking it can work out now.
Numbers is simply wrong about Cruz's immigration position, and Cruz has not helped in that he has actively gone on a campaign to obfuscate his real position. But it's clear that Cruz favors legal status, as demonstrated in my second article from American Thinker.
Never mind, can’t rationally discuss with someone who is uninformed or obtuse.
Well then, name another * true conservative * candidate that is actually running .... there isn’t one.
So I'm wrong about what the amendment does or are you actually the ignorant one who doesn't know what Cruz's amendment was supposed to accomplish?
Donald Trump: He's right on immigration, trade, healthcare, 2nd amendment and economics, etc etc.
Donald Trump is fooling you, you know pulling your chain.
Check out his past positions on many issues, more liberal than conservative, but the Trump Blinders that has you blind from his stardom has got you and many of his adoring fans blinded.
Trump is NOT a * True Conservative * wake up.
This isn't a stirring defense of Ted Cruz. "If Cruz is not conservative, neither is Trump!" I don't think we're all expecting Trump to be some ideologue. But considering the amount of heat Trump has taken and has refused to bow or change any of his positions-- as most politicians do-- I'm not sensing a lot of foundation for believing that Trump, at the last minute, is going to become Ted Cruz or Paul Ryan on immigration!
Trump’s positions have changed recently and are evolving ... where a few years most of his values and positions were liberal.
I rather build my foundation on solid rock than shifting sand..
Trump has you and many fooled by the light of stardom and bravodo... wake up..
If my "solid rock" you mean your delusions, I guess you'd be right.
“Donald Trump: He’s right on immigration, trade, healthcare, 2nd amendment and economics, etc etc. “
Well, according to his positions today anyway. I like Trump, but no one with half a brain can deny that he’s “evolved” on most of these issues (with the possible exception of trade), and this includes immigration, an issue in which he criticized Romney of all people just three years ago for being too far to the right.
And BTW — how is Trump “right” on healthcare? I saw him say in a debate in August that socialized medicine “works great” in Canada and Scotland. I also heard him say a couple weeks ago on 60 minutes “we have to take care of everybody”, whatever that means. And I repeatedly hear him talking about how he “cherishes women” and will be “great” on women’s health issues and that he’s going to replace Obamacare with “something terrific”, but assumedly it will still “take care of everybody.” Perhaps you could explain what Trump’s actual position is on healthcare, and how it is in keeping with conservative principals, because I’m having a hard time deciphering it.
None are so blind thatn those who refuse to see.
I'll take Trump who switched his position from 3 years ago over Cruz, Carson, Rubio, et al who still have the same position they had 3 years ago. Well, Carson's position actually got worse in July.
Forgot to reply to this: Trump prefers a free market solution to healthcare, removing barriers between states to allow insurance companies to compete. Yes, he said Single Payer works in Canada and Scotland, but wouldn't work here. The "take care of everybody" doesn't mean "Single Payer for everybody."
When it comes down to it, even with Trump's heresy on saying single payer can work in different countries, I'd still prefer him over any of the other candidates who will screw us on Amnesty.
NumbersUSA has their income dependent upon their accuracy, so I'll take their word over yours, thank you. While it is true that this was Cruz' early position, from what I have seen it has migrated toward the true Constitutional position which not only does not confer birthright citizenship, but precludes it. Cruz is a young man with the hubris of a great education, but he still has a lot to learn.
As to who is "stronger on immigration," that would be me.
I don't believe a word Donald Trump says, whether in person or in writing. He's reneged on way too many deals for me to trust him. So in that respect, I don't think you have any support for your argument at all unless of course you can explain to me why an owner of a major corporation hiring hordes of busboys, dishwashers, groundskeepers, construction laborers, and maids is an immigration hawk.
They are simply wrong. If I'm wrong, you should be able to address Cruz's statements and positions as outlined in those two articles I posted and demonstrate how they're either misquotations-- misrepresentations-- no longer correct for what he currently supports-- or provide some other explanation.
While it is true that this was Cruz' early position, from what I have seen it has migrated toward the true Constitutional position which not only does not confer birthright citizenship, but precludes it.
If that's true then this would have had to have happened quite recently, since Cruz's last interview with Megyn Kelly consisted of him being confronted on his position in 2013 and declaring that he had not changed it, though he didn't address the whole "it's pointless to attempt to change the constitution" thing.
I don't believe a word Donald Trump says, whether in person or in writing.
But you believe a random website? Your hypocrisy is astounding.
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