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No, Bernie Sanders, Scandinavia Is Not a Socialist Utopia
Townhall ^ | 10/18/2015 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 10/18/2015 6:52:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Scandinavians-—blond and blue-eyed!


21 posted on 10/18/2015 8:14:01 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Why Public school systems cannot be run efficiently once they reach a size where the superintendent/his deputy does not know every principal in his schools and they share his views of doing things. Scale.


22 posted on 10/18/2015 8:16:14 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not to mention that the Swedish welfare dream economy totally cratered in the 90's, and had to be rebuilt almost from scratch with far more modest state benefits.
23 posted on 10/18/2015 8:16:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
Free ebook by a Dane.

Manipulism and the Weapon of Guilt: Collectivism Exposed. Link

24 posted on 10/18/2015 8:17:08 PM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Scandina finds welfare habit too costly. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-08-30/scandinavia-s-weakest-nation-finding-welfare-habits-unaffordable


25 posted on 10/18/2015 8:23:26 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any country where people pay 25% sales tax, $5 per gallon gasoline tax, $20 per pack cigarette tax, and a whole bunch of other outrageous taxes is utopia to a Socialist like Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, or Barack Obama.

The Scandinavian countries are nearly the same as the rest of Socialist Europe countries with high taxes and huge government bureaucracies to redistribute the wealth.

I do hear some younger folks in the USA who say they want to live in Europe because health care is free. But these same dingbats do not realize free healthcare and a whole bunch of other free stuff is paid by them via huge taxes on everything.


26 posted on 10/18/2015 8:33:28 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Gunpowder green

Welcome to Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw


27 posted on 10/18/2015 8:35:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: The_Reader_David

Good old Mises and Hayek — two of my favorite guys, although it’s been so long since I’ve read them that I can’t remember which one made which argument either. The gist of both was similar but they had slightly different angles. There was a great article posted here a few years ago that compared them and IIRC concluded that Mises’s argument was a little stronger, although I can’t remember why.


28 posted on 10/18/2015 8:43:24 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SeekAndFind

If Sweden Left The EU and Joined the US, It Would Be the Poorest U.S. State, Below Even Mississippi

“Swede and Sour,” by Swedish author and blogger Johan Norberg, here are some excerpts:

If Sweden left the EU and joined the U.S. we would be the poorest state of America. Using fixed prices and purchasing power parity adjusted data, the median household income in Sweden in the late 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800 compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households - before taxes. And then we should remember that Sweden has the world´s highest taxes.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2007/11/sweden-mississippi-if-sweden-joined-us.html


29 posted on 10/18/2015 8:44:58 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
"Minnesota is following Scandinavian policies. Soon to be a Caliphate"

Very true. I have some friends who were refugees from Minnesota and made the mistake of momentarily landing in Calirado (same thing).


30 posted on 10/18/2015 9:21:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

But these same dingbats do not realize free healthcare and a whole bunch of other free stuff is paid by them via huge taxes on everything................................................ My cousins think its great, sure the money goes out but after it goes out they still have enough for themselves to spend on what they need. ??? I don’t know why they like it, but they do feel secure with it. When you only have a population of 6 million I guess its easier to work with?


31 posted on 10/18/2015 9:50:59 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In the words of Oliver Hardy; "Another fine mess you have gotten us into.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

32 posted on 10/18/2015 10:40:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bernie is woefully behind the times. Socialist utopia Sweden, for instance, is beset with problems stemming from its socialism attracting Muzz immigrants, resulting in burgeoning welfare, burgeoning rape,burgeoning debt, and burgeoning who knows what else.


33 posted on 10/19/2015 12:12:39 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Actually in Norway the sales tax is 28% but 15% for food. Norway is the 4th largest exporter of oil in the world but we pay $8-10 a gallon.


34 posted on 10/19/2015 1:36:50 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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RE: If Sweden Left The EU and Joined the US, It Would Be the Poorest U.S. State, Below Even Mississippi

SOURCE: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000.html

Mississipi Demographics:

White alone, percent, 2014 (a) 59.7%

Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 (a) 37.5%

American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2014 (a) 0.6% 1.2%

Asian alone, percent definition and source info Asian alone, percent, 2014 (a) 1.0%

Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2014 (b) 3.0%

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Sweden on the other hand is over 90% native Swede. The population is CULTURALLY HOMOGENOEUS ( so far, but it’s changing with immigration ).

http://www.clrsearch.com/Sweden-Demographics/ME/Population-by-Race-and-Ethnicity

There are many questions to ask regarding Mississippi vs Sweden. First — what would the former be like if the population were over 90% white like Sweden?

That’s not a PC question, so it’s not supposed to be asked.


35 posted on 10/19/2015 4:41:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Scandinavia's quality of life didn't spring from leftist policies. It survived them.

Excellent observation!

36 posted on 10/19/2015 5:45:19 AM PDT by Moltke
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RE: What’s the last big medical breakthrough, invention, or Internet startup to come out of Scandinavia?

Well, The Operating System, LINUX was developed by Linus Torvaldis in Finland. Of course, he later migrated to the USA, where LINUX started to take off.

Here's a list of useful Scandinavia intentions: CLICK HERE
37 posted on 10/19/2015 10:42:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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No, Bernie Sanders, Scandinavia Is Not a Socialist Utopia

The five countries commonly considered "Scandinavia" had a total population of 15 million in 2012.
Viewed as a State in the U.S. it would be collectively ranked as #5!

Bernie has a pair of distorting socialist utopia glasses, and evidently total ignorance about the world and the social dynamics of national identity and politics.

Until recently, every one of those countries had homogeneous populations and, most importantly each are autonomous (unlike the U.S. States which have all been hijacked, held prisoner, and robbed blind by an overreaching central government and its colossal corrupt bureaucracy.)

Any comparison of the U.S. with Scandinavia is an exercise in gross ignorance. Not a good quality in a presidential aspirant.

38 posted on 10/19/2015 6:07:58 PM PDT by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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To: Flick Lives
What’s the last big medical breakthrough, invention, or Internet startup to come out of Scandinavia?

Nokia?

First successful canard jet fighter?

39 posted on 10/19/2015 6:19:16 PM PDT by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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To: publius911

Nokia is HQ’d in Finland


40 posted on 10/19/2015 6:27:21 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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