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Amish finally win the right to follow their beliefs in Eau Claire County
Wisconsin Watchdog ^ | 10-1-15 | Paul Brennan

Posted on 10/01/2015 7:05:58 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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EVICTION: In March, a judge ordered the Borntregers evicted from their home because of their refusal to follow the UDC.

BELIEFS VS.THE BUILDING CODE: Since 2005 there has been conflict between Old Order Amish and the Eau Claire County Planning and Development Department.

1 posted on 10/01/2015 7:05:58 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Based on what I’ve seen for many years around upstate New York the so-called pious Amish have no problem compromising their beliefs when they think they can make a buck doing so.

The men often have no problems putting moden technology out in the barn when it helps their business.


2 posted on 10/01/2015 7:11:41 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Amish win in their 10 year dispute with Eau Claire County over Universal Building Code. Why do they have to follow electrical codes when they have no electricity?

FReep mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


3 posted on 10/01/2015 7:11:58 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Thank you Rep. Bernier for listening to and fighting for these people of faith. If at first she didn’t succeed, she tried, and tried again, the next year. She figured out how to make the system work for her and the Amish. It’s like playing Chess. In other cases, Blackjack.


4 posted on 10/01/2015 7:13:03 PM PDT by lee martell
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You’ve been on FR a long time when you had to see what Amish they are talking about.


5 posted on 10/01/2015 7:13:34 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Depends upon the kgroup. These are Old Order.


6 posted on 10/01/2015 7:13:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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And Thank You Sen. Ron Johnson for helpiing these citizens celebrate their victory.


7 posted on 10/01/2015 7:14:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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If they can use their beliefs to hold off Big Brother I’m fine with it.


8 posted on 10/01/2015 7:20:47 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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Gurney did not explain why emergency personnel would need a smoke detector to warn them of a fire in a home already ablaze.

Well, it is because Gurney is a high and mighty bureaurat who must be obeyed. Why is that so hard to figure out?

9 posted on 10/01/2015 7:25:19 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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The men often have no problems putting moden technology out in the barn when it helps their business.

Perhaps you don't actually know why they do the things they do. I had a long conversation with a wonderful Amish man while we were both on vacation in Florida last year. I learned a lot, and became hard-pressed to disagree with many of his view points.

Their shunning of modern equipment does not stem from regarding it as evil. Many of them use power tools, welding machinery and so on. It is mostly communications equipment that they shun. They prefer to converse with their families in person, which contrasts sharply with the families I see texting with others when gathered at restaurants. They object to the TV robbing families of quality time together, or bringing normalcy to immoral practice into their homes in the form of modern sitcoms.

Different groups ban different things as chosen by their elders. They do practice self rule, and believe that most Americans are slaved to government rules that are immoral or just plain thoughtless.

His family was, in general, completely unaware of current events.

Truthfully, I felt a bit envious of their innocence and lack of unawareness of how cruel and heartless life in this Nation has become.

10 posted on 10/01/2015 7:38:59 PM PDT by GingisK
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The Amish have moved into depopulated rural areas of NY just as they have in WI, turning depleted, abandoned or foreclosed farms into paying propositions. The use of technology is up to the local bishop, and the ones you refer to may not be strict Old Order.

In any case, what is it to you that they are frugal, hardworking and practical?

11 posted on 10/01/2015 7:39:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The old order Amish have lived this way for many, many years and they are a peaceful community of people. They cause no problems for anyone. Good for them for holding out for their beliefs. There is a sect of the Amish, the Mennonites, who do have electrify and use some modern conveniences.


12 posted on 10/01/2015 7:49:54 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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The Amish are not opposed to technology per se. They are opposed to technology that disrupts family and community life.

The Amish use disposable diapers, chemical fertilizers and pesticides and grow genetically modified crops. Phones, so long as they aren’t in the home, are OK.

They are also very decentralized, so how one group interprets that may be different from how others do. Some allow tractors. Some don’t. Heck, some allow only open buggies. Others allow covered buggies. They are increasingly allowing electricity in their barns and workshops, but many allow it only if it comes from off-grid sources.


13 posted on 10/01/2015 8:04:55 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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Some of the Amish in our county (there are 3 communities) have a huge breakfast every year and donate all the money to the local fire departments, some of which are volunteer. Last fall, a local fire in a home took the wife and one small child. The fire was on a Tuesday. By the week end the house had been rebuilt from the ground up, and the family moved back. They are okay people.


14 posted on 10/01/2015 8:16:05 PM PDT by healy61
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They are okay people.

I agree wholeheartedly.

15 posted on 10/01/2015 8:23:09 PM PDT by GingisK
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Why don’t the Amish water ski?

Because the horses would drown.


16 posted on 10/01/2015 8:49:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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You’ve been on FR a long time when you had to see what Amish they are talking about.

Yeah, the Amish Amish.

17 posted on 10/01/2015 8:52:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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In my opinion, justice has not yet been done in this case. Lance Gurney and the Eau Claire Coporation Counsel need to lose their jobs because of their failure to respect the religious rights of the Amish.


18 posted on 10/01/2015 9:04:07 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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Based on what I’ve seen for many years around upstate New York the so-called pious Amish have no problem compromising their beliefs when they think they can make a buck doing so

Rather, they are not a monolithic group, and rather than compromising their beliefs, I think in most cases they compromise what many assume are their beliefs due to believing they are a monolithic group.

19 posted on 10/01/2015 9:25:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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...”Amish have no problem compromising their beliefs when they think they can make a buck doing so”...

Same in Lancaster Country where I lived for a time. The men use to use the areas pay phones to do business...I suspect they use cells now. But we would see them run to the phone booths or hang out waiting for a call. ...and too many of them treat their horse like crap.

Even the women are in on the games....they sell “Amish Baked Goods” almost most places....what the public doesn’t know is the woman buy pre-prepared foods, pop them in the oven and “Bake” them....then pass them off as “Amish Baked”...which technically they are Baked....they just aren’t made by the women.


20 posted on 10/01/2015 9:36:35 PM PDT by caww
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