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Washington Post editor: Obama owns the Syrian disaster
Hotair ^ | 09/08/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/08/2015 2:47:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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21 posted on 09/08/2015 5:05:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: centurion316
"Shame on all of us."

I categorically refuse to be part of your 'us' or your 'shame.' If you were on my property right now, I would chase you off as fast as I would chase off a communist, and probably hit you with a stick more times in the process - because anyone on this site sincerely - should know better.

I've stopped myself numerous times in the past from clicking 'post' after starting a similar response to similar calls for 'us' to be 'ashamed.' Speak for yourself.

Let me state as an individual human created by God and dropped on this orb, self evidently free: DO NOT EVER include me in your personal 'we' or 'us,' especially when expressing your personal and irrational shame and self-negativity.

It is philosophically and morally more sickening than the actions of those who actually are the agents of what's going on today in this country. I can be responsible (able to respond) to the patently stupid and evil choices of those around me, but I am not accountable for their sins and will never take on the shame due them, as you seem to, nor spread it by passive inference to those listening to me or reading me by the use of the collective 'we/us'

I don't mean to be harsh, maybe reflect if you've been partially hypnotized by the collective evil scum we're exposed to every day in the media and the world ("The World" as Jesus called it") around us: to call oneself a free man and individual and simultaneously accept shame for the actions of others, or your inability to prevent them from taking those actions, is as much a denial of the sanctity of individual freedom, will and agency as it is to take it away from a man by jailing him for nothing, or taxing him to death for the sin of being more successful.

You can have your shame, I won't get near it, ever.

I am not condemning the voluntary cooperation of free clear thinking and informed individuals when I say the word 'we' is the most evil word in the English language and the most evil word in the history of mankind.

Please take that as extreme gut level moral outrage at an idea and not at you personally. I know we are all on the same side here.

22 posted on 09/08/2015 5:38:00 PM PDT by tinyowl (peguin in transition)
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To: Lurker

And that is the truth


23 posted on 09/08/2015 5:43:55 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: tinyowl

Claiming that the rot that destroys this country has nothing to do with you is much like the Japanese people who refuse to accept any of the responsibility for what their country did in World War II. Please keep you sanctimony to yourself and you may be quite certain that I will never put a step on your property. The only people who will do that are the ones who haul you off to the reeducation camp.


24 posted on 09/08/2015 5:46:07 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: PGalt
He also owns this


25 posted on 09/08/2015 5:46:27 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: tinyowl

I don’t blame you because IO feel the same way


26 posted on 09/08/2015 5:48:52 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, he does. Yet, it’s hard to pin the tail on the donkey because, “It depends on what the definition of ISIS”. Maybe Johnny McInsane can shed some light on the situation…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEdpDpoTTA


27 posted on 09/08/2015 5:56:11 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: centurion316
"Claiming that the rot that destroys this country has nothing to do with you"

If you can find the line where I claimed that, then I'll address it, but you won't.

"... responsibility"

I addressed that word specifically, and in relation to it's difference vs 'accountability.'

If you had a cold, or the flu, I would fight your cold, or flu, but that doesn't mean I would be fighting you. I think you have 'we' flu, that's all.

Obama practically bleeds "We" (you by inference) "should be ashamed." It's the unspoken mantra, it's the most destructive force in a host of destructive forces.

I don't think you should be ashamed. Why not just be disgusted or hurt? And then, if you choose, you can exercise 'responsibility.' There is no need for shame in that equation unless you are doing less than your heart/God demands of you -> but that is a question for you to answer for yourself, not to answer for others.

The question isn't whether it sounds sanctimonious. The question is whether it is correct.

28 posted on 09/08/2015 6:06:12 PM PDT by tinyowl (peguin in transition)
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To: tinyowl

Don’t care to argue, nice to know you.


29 posted on 09/08/2015 6:35:45 PM PDT by centurion316
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If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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The Libyan, Iraqi and Iranian disasters too. Could add others.

30 posted on 09/09/2015 6:54:58 AM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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"Death to America!"


31 posted on 09/09/2015 2:36:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Cicero
Why was Obama so quick to attack a dictator dealing with the West, and so quick to disparage intervention against a dictator aligned with Iran? Was Obama that desperate to get a nuclear deal with Tehran that he and his team — which includes Samantha Power and Susan Rice — were willing to tolerate genocides in order to get it?

Well, Obama got 'the deal'... no price was too high. And the deal's a dud...

32 posted on 09/09/2015 6:49:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: SJackson

Aww, why don’t we cooperate with him and do whatever he says, and that way he can own an Israeli disaster, too.


33 posted on 09/10/2015 2:49:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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