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Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan
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| August 22, 2015
| Mark Whittington
Posted on 08/23/2015 12:07:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JediJones
In Alabama, Trumps Wizard of Oz Act Leaves Some Fans Underwhelmed "Toto the dog wasnt needed in Mobile, Ala., Friday night to pull the curtain from behind The Great and Mighty Trump. Trump let his own curtain flutter open, showing to much of the audience the humbug within.
In an hour-long verbal meanderthon at half-filled Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Trump allowed an atmosphere of electric excitement to dissipate, and then he split town without his promised post-show press conference. As I left the stadium, a red-hatted lady of my acquaintance spotted me and pulled me aside, saying: Somebody needs to tell that man when to shut the you-know-what up. People were leaving in droves.
Well, not entirely droves, but by my estimate, about 1520 percent of the 18,000 or so attendees Trump publicity organs had earlier said they expected up to 35,000 had filed out before Trump wound up his many-versed hymn to his own toughness and deal-making skills....."
To: Cincinatus' Wife
![](http://video.foxnews.com/thumbnails/i/031011/0/0/031011_han_walker_FNC_031011_21-06.jpg)
Scott Walker, the answer to a question that no one asked.
A dullard.
A snooze fest.
This country is turning to crap, and this guy is face down in his cereal bowl blowing bubbles in his milk.
Please stop pushing this guy, he brings nothing to the table but ZZZZZZZZZ.....
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posted on
08/23/2015 1:28:02 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Heartless)
To: montag813
Your argument supports the idea that Trump isn’t credible.
To: chris37
You want a show horse president not a work horse president.
Got it.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's get VERY CLEAR on TED CRUZ and Immigration:
Immigration
As the son of a Cuban immigrant, Sen. Cruz celebrates LEGAL immigration.
He has championed measuresto secure the border,
reform the LEGAL immigration system,
and uphold the rule of law.
Americans, and particularly Texans, have witnessed the harmful effects of an unsecure border,endangering the lives both of citizens and those who enter illegally.
President Obamas policies have encouraged drug smugglers, child abusers, murderers, and other dangerous criminals to traffick immigrant children into our nation under life-threatening conditions.
In the summer of 2013 we witnessed a humanitarian crisis at our Southern Border, propelled by PROMISES OF AMNESTY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE .
Immigrants deserve a better system in which they will be welcomed to the United States safely and with dignity.
As a critical step to protecting families and inviting more people to enter LEGALLY, in 2014, Sen. Cruz proposed legislation TO PREVENT OBAMA FROM ILLEGALLY EXPANDING AMNESTY .
The House acted to solve the ongoing crisis and passed bills that closely mirrored Sen. Cruzs proposals,but regrettably the Senate DemocRATS REFUSED TO ALLOW A VOTE on the measures.
In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the Gang of 8 bill that wouldstrengthen border security,
expand green card opportunities,
increase high-skilled H1B visas, PREVENT ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM RECEIVING WELFARE BENEFITS ,
and enforce the rule of law.
ALSO from
On The Issues :
Ted Cruz on Immigration
End Obama's illegal amnesty via Congress' checks & balances
Q: How to respond to the split within your party on immigration?
What you're saying isthat the Republicans should vote to fund the governments for all departments except one:no funding for the Department of Homeland Security,
which handles immigration, rescinding President Obama's executive action,
and if he vetoes that, he's responsible for shutting down the department.
The problem isthat's almost exactly what you did with the government shutdown across the entire government in 2013 with ObamaCare,
and it backfired badly on your party.
CRUZ: All across this country, Republicans campaigned, saying: if you elect a Republican Senate, we will stop President Obama's illegal amnesty.
We need to HONOR WHAT WE SAID .
We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have TO REIN IN THE ABUSE OF POWER OF THE EXECUTIVE.Step #1 is IF the president implements this LAWLESS AMNESTY, that THE SENATE WILL NOT CONFIRM ANY executive or judicial nominees.
Defund amnesty; and refuse any nominees until rescinded
Q: How would you rescind President Obama's executive action on immigration?
CRUZ: We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have TO REIN IN THE ABUSE OF POWER OF THE EXECUTIVE .Step #1 that I have called for is the incoming majority leader should announce IF the president implements this LAWLESS AMNESTY, that THE SENATE WILL NOT CONFIRM ANY executive or judicial nominees,other than VITALl national security positions,
for the next two years,
UNLESS AND UNTIL the president ENDS THIS LAWLESS AMNESTY .
That is AN EXPLICIT AUTHORITY given TO the Senate.
Q: Are you saying the Senate should REFUSE TO CONFIRM the president's new nominee for attorney general?
CRUZ: We have to REIN IN the executive.
And step #2, we've got is THE POWER OF THE PURSE,and we should FUND ONE AT A TIME the CRITICAL PRIORITIES of the federal government,but ALSO USE THE POWER OF THE PURSE TO ATTACH RIDERS .
No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas
When discussing what to do about the 1.65 million ILLEGAL immigrants living in Texas,
CRUZ again saidHE DID NOT SUPPORT A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGAL immigrants living in America,
Give police more power to ask about immigration status
Cruz accused Dewhurst of using his position as head of the Texas Senate to KILL A BILL last year that would have given police more power to ask anyone they detain about their citizenship status--a charge Dewhurst denied.
Both agreed that the US has FAILED TO SECURE ITS BORDER with Mexico,
and said they OPPOSE AMNESTY for ILLEGAL immigrants and the Obama administration's new directiveallowing many young illegal immigrants brought to the US as children to be exempted from deportation.
Boots on the ground, plus a wall
Border wall: James and Leppert OPPOSE A WALL,
Dewhurst and CRUZ tout "boots on the ground" AND A WALL IN SOME PLACES .
Triple the size of the Border Patrol
CRUZ on immigration: Wants to TRIPLE [the]SIZE of Border Patrol.
Says Dewhurst supported in-state tuition for kids of ILLEGAL immigrants.
Dewhurst: I have always been against an amnesty program."If they want to be a citizen, they ought to go home and reapply."
Dewhurst says he was against tuition for children of illegal immigrants.
Strengthen border security and increase enforcement
Ted Cruz has worked to STRENGTHEN BORDER SECURITY and help ensure that America remains a nation of laws.
Among other efforts, he has worked on efforts to INCREASE PENALTIES for felons WHO ENTER THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY .
Ted authored a U.S. Supreme Court amicus brief on behalf of 10 states in Lopez v. Gonzales,ILLEGALLY .
TED CRUZ/Trump ... , or Trump/TED CRUZ ... ;
EITHER IS A WINNING TICKET !
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posted on
08/23/2015 1:29:07 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Your boy Walker is an Establishment back up candidate..... That alone should clue you into Walker.
I prefer to say if you like what the Boehner and McConnel are doing, then vote for Jeb or Walker...
Sorry I will never vote for this Amnesty loving guy. The Walker campaig has been exposed, and now they are trying to spin there way out of what he said earlier this year about “path way to citizenship for the illegals” non sense.
To: Enlightened1
That would come as a surprise to Walker. He certainly could have used their help in Wisconsin over the last 5 years, but as it turns out, he managed quite nicely without them.
Who is your candidate?
To: Cincinatus' Wife
I’m sorry that you are all in for a dud. Really, I am.
Conservatives seem to have a unique ability want to pick people with zero leadership qualities to be their leaders.
As you can see, the whole country is just on fire for Scott “Sleep” Walker.
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posted on
08/23/2015 1:35:07 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Heartless)
To: chris37
To: Enlightened1
To: chris37
As you can see, the whole country is just on fire for Scott Sleep Walker.I know the Left hates and fears him.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Will relentlessly attacked Reagan in a personal and political way from 74 on. He referred to supporters as “kamikaze’s” and advocated the “cleansing” of us from the party.
There’s a plethora of hitjob articles from him (easily found), and Mark Levin called him out as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R40lcJddbAc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
These aren’t the vanilla political observers or pundits as you kindly described them. No. They are the paid kneepad hitmen of the “Statists” and Rockefeller, Bush wing. Let them rot.
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posted on
08/23/2015 1:43:09 AM PDT
by
Kaosinla
(The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
To: Kaosinla
Why don’t you make a counter argument?
It would be interesting to hear your opinion on what they’re saying about current issues.
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Propagandists willhammer Trump’s plan.
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posted on
08/23/2015 1:49:54 AM PDT
by
PGalt
To: PGalt
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/422939/rick-perry-lets-it-fly-americans-prosperity-jim-geraghty
.....Will we nominate a candidate who says the right thing, or a candidate who has a record of doing the right thing? Perry said, appearing to not-so-subtly target the candidates who havent served in office before Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump. You dont have to rely on the rhetoric, you can check the record!
Ill admit, I am not the best talker in this race, Perry said to chuckles from the audience. I mangle words. Ive been known to lose my train of thought from time to time, getting bigger laughs from the audience, remembering his debate performance from 2012.
But Ive never forgotten where I came from and what I believe. Ive never forgotten the importance of hard work, the value of a dollar, and the importance of family. He contended that Texas had demonstrated the truth that limited government leads to unlimited opportunity...
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Walker is a flip flopping nothingburger, open borders, pc feminist megyn kelly bandwagon jumper,alos his wife supports gay marriage. He has the spine of a jellyfish. Go home Scotty you may win wisconsin but thats it. You are GOPe
To: Cincinatus' Wife
That would be the same as asking for a counterargument to a statement by Chris Matthews or a host of propagandists. Is there a reason to base an argument on an already false premise? Absolutely not because you have already lost by accepting the premise to be worthy of arguing.
I would be much more harsh, but allow me to submit an eloquent and perfectly worded response to these traitors, moderates, and elitists.
I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way. Reagans speech at the 2nd annual CPAC convention, March 1, 1975
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posted on
08/23/2015 2:02:09 AM PDT
by
Kaosinla
(The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
To: MARKUSPRIME
Walker’s wife supports a gay female cousin who’s been with someone for decades, a woman who has a son who is a cousin to her sons.
This is not dissimilar to many people who have a gay family member.
Walker has steadfastly stated his position on marriage, it’s between a man and a woman.
To: Kaosinla
To: Amendment10
“In a related thread, an anti-Trump author complained that Trumps mass deportation plan will cost $165 billion plus or minus a couple of billion. (I dont remember the exact figure.”
And how was that figure arrived at? I submit someone pulled that number right out of their *ss.
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posted on
08/23/2015 2:06:23 AM PDT
by
flaglady47
(TRUMP ROCKS!)
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