Posted on 08/22/2015 9:40:14 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
Yeah, you did. You think most pro-life people on this forum are the functional equivalent of ISIS.
IBTZ
Thanks for the ping.
Your quite welcome.
IBTZ
If the pictures don't upset you, then you have no soul.
Most? You certainly can make out something that isn't there. I was debating
those attacking me. So what exactly is your problem with my posts?
And I'm a holocaust denier according to them. So what's your point?
My point was quite clear about the extremism of dismembered babies on posters
and the similarity to ISIS placing heads on pikes is an acceptable and
accurate simile.
For years, abortion opponents have relied on graphic descriptions and imagery to make their case against legal abortion. ..... no different then in a courtroom when attorneys show violent murder scenes to make their point of regarding brutality.
However, if or not these recent videos of planned parenthood's successfully will change hearts and minds on the topic of ‘abortion itself’ remains to be seen..... I fear it will boil down to simply further regulating procedures of how abortions 'are done and the use of fetal tissue. As for the imagery....this is not new and was also used in the fight of Roe-vs Wade.
.....”Thrilled to see them using the photos - if that doesn’t wake up America then nothing will and all is lost.”.....
This ‘same’ imagery did not wake people up in Roe vs Wade.....the mindset of the population is Pro-Abortion otherwise Roe vs. Wade would never have happened.
As long as the moral of this nation regarding sex remains “free floating” and not only encouraged but even taught how to preform in our educational systems at a very early age. Abortion will not be going into the dustbin of this society. It is used as a means of birth control...after the act of sex. ....which is really killing off the natural result of sexual encounters...a baby.
These Videos will have an effect, if at the very least Americans don't
like to be swindled or lied to.
This is not a constitutionally protected procedure IMO. States should
just place it on their ballot every election.
I don’t listen to polls because they can all be biased....
But saying you are right that 58% of Americans all abortions. I didn’t see even a quarter of them on the streets opposing Planned Parenthood Saturday....where were they?
Further it’s still being pushed politically as a “Womans’s right issue”....and the issue isn’t about abortion...it’s about ‘the legalities’ of selling baby parts.
I think it is interesting that you never hear the abortionist brag about how they use there medical training.
when was the last time you heard a receptionist at one of theses clinics talk about there work.
Most of theses people no it is evil that they commit.
So, you don't believe that abortion is constitutionally protected, but you do believe that each state has the right to decide. Is that correct?
Assuming it is, this makes you pro-choice-by-state.
This is the out that Ron Paul and others have used all along to keep abortion "safe and legal and rare." They know full well that states like California and New York will never abolish abortion if given the choice, but they mumble these words in an attempt to appease pro-lifers.
Abortion IS NOT a "states rights" issue, it is unconstitutional for any state to allow the life of a person to be taken without due process. NO state is empowered to decide who is and who isn't a person, that approach was tried in the early decades of our Republic and the result was disastrous.
If the baby being murdered is a person, they have constitutional protect period. If they are not a person, what do you consider them?
All throughout this thread you have been criticizing pro-lifers as "extremists." Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum and your contempt for the sanctity of life is disgusting. You clearly don't belong here and I suggest you shut the hell up.
.....”Abortion IS NOT a “states rights” issue,........ it is unconstitutional for any state to allow ‘the life of a person’ to be taken without due process.... NO state is empowered to decide who is and who isn’t a person!”.....
Amen Wagglebee!!!.... Rightfully stated and with the boldness it needs to be stated as so!
I more than gladly and proudly defer to Wagglebee’s post #70....
160 years the number of Americans that favored or opposed slavery were similar to today's numbers on abortion. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and the 14th Amendment makes it very clear that NO PERSON could be denied due process rights.
In Roe v. Wade, Justice Blackmun made it clear that when personhood was established any "right" to abortion became null because the baby has rights. There is NO NEED for a court case to establish personhood, Congress just needs to vote on it and the president needs to sign it. And this simple act would be IMPOSSIBLE from a practical standpoint to reverse later.
Human rights do not come from the government, for then they wouldn’t be rights; nor from the majority nor from the delivery doctor or hospital at birth........ rights come from our Creator, possessed therefore at the moment that we are created.
Jeremiah 1:5 quotes God saying,...... “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.”
The Declaration of Independence affirms what those who believe in God have always known........ “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life…”
Exactly. The line after the one you quoted in the Declaration is just as important, "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
Not only do governments not grant rights, they don't have rights. Government protects the rights of We the People and We the People give the government powers to do that.
That’s exactly right!
And ‘a woman’s right to choose’ what she does with her body is made at the time she engages in the sexual act. She does NOT have the right to take the life of the child as a means of declaring she has ‘a right to murder’ her children.......
Precisely and if she did, why should she need to do it on a schedule? If killing the child is the woman's "choice" she should be allowed to kill it at any time and for any reason until it reaches adulthood, saying she can only kill it through birth seems rather arbitrary.
Woman know all to well it’s a baby......just because the child is not wanted does not change the fact it’s still murdering their child.....
Even those who butcher and divide baby parts for selling say...”It’s a boy”....it’s a baby”.....and they call the parts by human names...from heart, to legs etc.
Adding another front to fighting Abortion isn't good enough for you?
You're pathetic.
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