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1 posted on 08/19/2015 8:17:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Bill O’Baxter is, again, totally wrong. Mark Levin talked of this at length Monday. The 14th Amendment does NOT grant citizenship rights to non-citizens. Moreover, another section of the Constitution gives “plenary power” to Congress on all matters of Naturalization. That’s absolute.

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-congress-can-end-birthright-citizenship-without-amending-the-constitution/


38 posted on 08/19/2015 8:42:20 AM PDT by antonico
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Never heard Trump say anything about deporting American citizens. He did say that he’d deport the illegal parents of anchor babies, and that he’d try to keep the families together (the babies leave US with parents), but he did not say he would prevent anchor babies from remaining in the US if they had some situation which allowed that.

O’Reilly just being his typical blowhard self.


44 posted on 08/19/2015 8:47:38 AM PDT by Will88
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BOR(E) thinks he’s smarter than he is. Trump is right but some of the “candidates” for removal will be sticky issues - send the illegal parents home and see what happens to those that don’t return with them...a start is a start and the discontinuance of the current twisted protocol will have a very positive effect.


46 posted on 08/19/2015 8:49:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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" The courts would block you at every turn. You must know all that."

Patently false. Courts deport children born in this country all the time. In addition, during the depression hundreds of thousands of Illegals (and their families) were deported. Then again during Operation Wetback, well over one million, many of which were children born in this country.

47 posted on 08/19/2015 8:49:59 AM PDT by moehoward
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"I can quote it!" O'Reilly exclaimed. "You want me to quote you the amendment? If you're born here, you're an American — period! Period!"

That is not "quoting", it's "paraphrasing". Big difference between quoting and paraphrasing and Bill should know it, being such a grammar-hawk and all.

If he were quoting, he would have included "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" which is the clause Trump kept referring to when he said his legal advisors had a different interpretation of the 14th.
48 posted on 08/19/2015 8:50:38 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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Persons born here AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF are citizens.

It will be up to Congress to pass a law prohibiting citizenship to the children of illegals, and then it will be up to the courts, ultimately SCOTUS, to decide what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means.

My interpretation is if you are here on a valid visa, you are here subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. If you're not hear legally, you are not.

50 posted on 08/19/2015 8:52:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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This is all in Bill’s new book, Killing the United States.


51 posted on 08/19/2015 8:53:42 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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If we don’t deport all illegals from the USA and reduce legal immigration then the USA is done.

Immigration is the most important issue

Since 1965 democrats have imported 42 million legal immigrants from the 3rd world . that’s 42 mllion voters for democrats added to the USA.Now these are the worshiped “legal” immigrants.

In addition there are 30 million illegals. and how many of those vote or donate to democrats?

Ann Coulter in her book explains it better than anyone how immigrants are destroying the USA

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676

The illegals explosion started under Bill Clinton. This cretin’s election is the exact moment when the country started the decline


53 posted on 08/19/2015 8:53:52 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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“I can quote it!” O’Reilly exclaimed. “You want me to quote you the amendment? If you’re born here, you’re an American — period! Period!”


Sounds like Michael Medved.

The GOPe veil is being lifted. They are exposing themselves left and right.

And no, if you are born here, you are not necessarily an american. The 14th amendment has a caveat, and anchor babies of illegals don’t meet the requirement.


54 posted on 08/19/2015 8:54:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Is O’Reilly talking about the anchor babies - they can't be deported?

Are these illegal aliens a new breed of parents who will NOT take their children with them when they move?

What kind of people leave their children behind?

57 posted on 08/19/2015 8:56:21 AM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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...“Democrats have opened our borders to all manner of horrific Third World violence, crime, and disease. The GOP has supported and endorsed this vile activity every single step of the way. Trump has tapped into the fury of the American people over the unrelenting anti-American NWO push of our paid employees in government. Trump could win this on this one issue alone. Americans are tired of being betrayed by their government on both sides of the aisle.”...


58 posted on 08/19/2015 8:56:54 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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The 14th amendment has been grossly misinterpreted. All it was ever meant to do was bestow citizenship on freed slaves and their children.

I’m not a constitutional lawyer but I play one at home. So I’m going to say the word “jurisdiction” framed in the 14th amendment is where you attack the anchor baby problem.


59 posted on 08/19/2015 8:58:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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We have to deport all illegals and reduce legal immigration or the USA is done

The media hides that there was hardly no immigration from 1925 - 1965,

Ann Coulter in her book explains it better than anyone how immigrants are destroying the USA

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676

It was only until 1965 that ted kennedy used JFK’s deathh to pass the current immigration laws that flood us with 3rd world immigrants. JFK and the kenedys destroyed America


62 posted on 08/19/2015 9:02:42 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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“You can’t....”

I can’t listen to B.O.

Either one.


64 posted on 08/19/2015 9:05:51 AM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Join the Bush League! Why? Because we say so!)
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This is a misleading title

I promise you Trump never said he’d deport legal citizens

If OReilly accused him of that then during his vacation Ailes gave him his orders to attack


65 posted on 08/19/2015 9:06:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (My ears are bleeding....FOX ..all I hear are shrill high pitched whiney women taking over each other)
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All Trump had to do was box O’Reilly into a corner by asking him, if his “if you’re born here you’re a citizen” belief is true, why the children of foreign diplomats born here aren’t granted cirizenship.

Thats it. Turn it on O’Reilly and make him fight his way out of that particulsr box. At the very least “Mr. No Spin” would have to admit that the matter is much more complicated than the way he was, himself, spinning it.


66 posted on 08/19/2015 9:06:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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So then deport the parents. Are they going to leave the kids behind?


69 posted on 08/19/2015 9:10:32 AM PDT by zeebee
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OK, so you can't kick out the anchor babies. But you can kick out their parents. The kid can go along with them, or not.

I used to be soft-hearted about this..."The kid didn't have anything to do with the decision! It's wrong to break up families. Heartless! Cruel!" and so on.

Then, I had an epiphany. If I committed a felony, would the court system say, "But he's a father! His family would be unduly harmed by him going to prison! Think of his children!" and so on??

Nope. Judge would lock me up and toss the key, without a thought. "Tough luck, WBill. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."

Why should illegals be held to any different standard?

71 posted on 08/19/2015 9:12:05 AM PDT by wbill
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O’Reily is full of something other than smarts when it comes to the Constitution, and other matters as they come and go. He and the FOX judge don’t see by intent or ignorance that included in the wording of the 14th Amendment is the wording ‘and subject to the jurisdiction thereof’. When a one day US parent goes back to her native country with the child out of the jurisdiction of the US government the mother has automatically disenfranchised the child from US citizenship. No pandering or feely-goody opinion applies.


75 posted on 08/19/2015 9:13:38 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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Trump is right and everyone knows it.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

If the parents are illegals and NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the US then how could their dependent baby be?

The amendment was clearly written to address the status of slaves during the civil war.


77 posted on 08/19/2015 9:14:54 AM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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