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Donald Trump leads big in new Arizona poll as Carson, Fiorina gain
bizjournals.com ^ | Mike Sunnucks

Posted on 08/18/2015 9:25:20 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: ripnbang

POLLS are Gossip... at best at worse rumor..

Important to Gossips true.. Unimportant to serious DO’ERS..


61 posted on 08/18/2015 11:29:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: DannyTN

So you’re saying that Trump is the slowest kid in class?


62 posted on 08/18/2015 11:34:58 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones
No Trump is anything but the slowest kid in class.

I'm saying that whoever takes the lead early, might very well prevail to the end and create such a lead that nobody can catch up to him.

Look at what's happening. Support for the other candidates is drying up, to the point that they will have trouble getting additional donations.

They will be in crisis mode while Trump leads, sets the agenda, and controls the media.

63 posted on 08/18/2015 11:37:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: hosepipe

Ted Cruz would DO much of what Trump suggests EXCEPT by restoring the Constitution..

How do you purpose he get the same sellouts and phonies to go along with restoring the USC?
We have millions flooding our border who could care less about the USC?
We are 18 Trillion in debt and counting.
How do we get the media, who has hardly laid a glove on obama, to suddenly report the unbiased facts?
The whole system is corrupt or uneffective.

Unless we doblar las reglas, pagar a la gente fuera, i do not see how we jerk it back in place? que no sea una guerra civil?


64 posted on 08/18/2015 11:38:35 AM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Join the Bush League! Why? Because we say so!)
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To: LS

A president has enormous power to do what he wants. Obama has shown that. You don’t need to be a “celebrity” to wield that power.

Also, Trump’s celebrity will not preclude him from needing legislation or amendments to do some of the things he wants to do. If the Democrats and GOPe control Congress, they will not pass what he wants just because he’s a “celebrity.”


65 posted on 08/18/2015 11:40:03 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: LS

I understand you’re starstruck by Trump’s celebrity appeal, but try not to let it overshadow your capacity for rational thought.


66 posted on 08/18/2015 11:40:45 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: RoosterRedux

Editar: O una guerra civil?


67 posted on 08/18/2015 11:42:10 AM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Join the Bush League! Why? Because we say so!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The market has not withstood Greece etc.

The Fed is buying at least $50 billion worth of stock every day. The Fed is holding up the markets.

If it did not do this on a daily basis the Dow would go to 2000 in a month. Basically the Fed has nationalized the markets and wants us to believe that by printing paper you have instant prosperity. You do not.

As I said all the markets around the world are collapsing.

The last one to hold up is the US. I suspect we are right around the corner for another major major collapse.

Hell one of the best performing stocks is Amzn and the company has zero earnings and has never had any. That is a total fraud; cars and homes are held up now with subprime loans etc. etc.


68 posted on 08/18/2015 11:51:34 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: hosepipe

POLLS are Gossip... at best at worse rumor..

Important to Gossips true.. Unimportant to serious DO’ERS..


Interesting, Bush’s campaign is saying the same thing. Polls may not always reflect reality, but they are taken for a reason and some people make their living off of them.

If I were in charge of a campaign, I would not want to rely on words like “stealth”, “full back, tail back”, “alliance”, or any other choice word(s) that highlight the fact my campaign is not getting traction.


69 posted on 08/18/2015 11:52:15 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: GilGil; Lazamataz
Put a wig, a dress and some heels on that guy and he would be a real looker. Might help his poll numbers.

Would Laz hit it?

70 posted on 08/18/2015 12:04:02 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: JediJones
Pres. Trump will not achieve things because of his celebrity status, but rather it will go a long way in persuading those hesitant, scared-of-everything GOP types to go along.

I do not see a Ted Cruz as capable of circumventing what will need to be circumvented to achieve ends. I'm not talking about going around the Constitution. I'm talking about very hard ball politics in which you play dirty. People at the IRS don't cooperate with reforms, they get exiled to Scottsbluff, NE. Trump has the personality to do this stuff, and I don't think Cruz does.

Cruz will be a terrific AG in this Trump administration, and I think they've already worked that out.

71 posted on 08/18/2015 12:18:20 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: JediJones

Nor you with your blind hatred. Fact is, I thought through the Cruz stuff three months ago before Trump ever became a big player. I concluded then that while I agreed with him on almost every issue, he didn’t have the national appeal to get the presidency. I rationally moved on, and quickly.


72 posted on 08/18/2015 12:19:54 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: GilGil
Hell one of the best performing stocks is Amzn and the company has zero earnings and has never had any.

That's a strategy. You know why Amazon is doing that don't you?

It's called hypergrowth. That's why Amazon is now larger than Walmart.

Plus the Fed buys Treasury Bonds not stock. Do you have a source for their $50b a day of T-Bond purchases. I am certain that is in error.

Thirdly, the DJIA is currently selling at a PE ratio of 16.79X and that is just about average...so the stock market isn't wildly overvalued.

73 posted on 08/18/2015 12:36:51 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ( First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: uglybiker
I'd hit Adult Wednesday Addams.


74 posted on 08/18/2015 1:05:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m looking for the article reference for $50 billion for the ppt. Directly the Fed is not investing in the markets but it is doing it through the banks.

With respect to the American markets, back in 2008 the American markets were the last to go before all the others that were collapsing. The below article describes what markets around the world are totally falling apart. Things are just not normal.

Just read that they goosed the q3 GDP I think from .7% to 1.3% by giving out subprime loans for cars. So people who cannot afford cars are given loans on cars. They are doing same in housing.

Let me dig up the reference to $50 billion and I’ll send it to you.

http://www.silverdoctors.com/23-nations-around-the-world-where-stock-market-crashes-are-already-happening/#more-57022


75 posted on 08/18/2015 1:52:43 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Leep

How do you purpose he get the same sellouts and phonies to go along with restoring the USC?


Ah! you forget the bully pulpit..
He can name names like already does do...
Except the bully pulpit Most are FORCED TO HEAR..

He can do what Trump is doing NOW..
Except folksy humorous slyly genuine...

People listen to trump not because hes trump
but what he is saying is TRUE.. and they know it..
Trump wouldn’t have all these freepers tongues hanging out got lies..

With Trump the lies would come later.. like with Obama..
Except Obama lied all along the way... BIG HONKIN ONES..
Ted don’t bull shit you.. look what Trumps done by telling the truth..
Except some truths are hidden especially about the crony capitalists.. Wal-mart and all them..

Ted knows how Washington works BETTER than Trump does.. he lives it.. in ways Trump will never know.. except for corrupt deals he’s planned himself(and brags about) or even knows about..

Ted is the Washington D.C. “FLUSHER” not Trump..
Trump might flush some of it.. bones for conservatives.. to gnaw on..
BUT NOT the BIG STUFF the Crony Capitalism..

Ted would go thru Washington the way “YOU THINK” Trump would do, but WON’T..

Ted is the real deal... Trump is “THE” Anti-Cruz-Missle..
The crony capitialists are scared shitless of a Cruz presidency..

With Cruz doing business in China would quickly become much less profitable.. and a bit scary too CHINA would react to Cruz..

Trump is RUNNING to ace out Cruz.. or make him a VeeP with absolutely no POWER to do anything.. thats the plan..
I mean it’s obvious why Trump when have Cruz all along..
Trump is the ANTI-Cruz... most Cruzers know that most Trumpers DO NOT..

Well you can’t say that tomorrow can you..
YOU must relegate my words to silly accusations to remain having FAITH in Trump.. so be it.. water seeks it’s own level..


76 posted on 08/18/2015 2:09:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

That’s true. The Donald will name and shame and he’s not meek about it, he will keep it up.

If by some chance he manages to become the president, this is not going to be business as usual. People are going to be swooning at his feet for how he is managing to tell off a do-nothing government.


77 posted on 08/18/2015 2:12:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RoosterRedux

At what point do they run out of the investment needed to keep a no profit affair going?


78 posted on 08/18/2015 2:13:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ripnbang

No..... Polls are bull shit EVEN when they go “your” way..
Agitprop... propaganda gambits.. gossip..

You believe what you believe / Polls are like astrology..
Prophecy for morons or the uninformed.. or those that want to be and remain uninformed..
You know democrats.. Rinos.. Libertarians..


79 posted on 08/18/2015 2:15:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: GilGil

Thx GilGil!


80 posted on 08/18/2015 2:17:01 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ( First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi)
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