Posted on 08/17/2015 6:32:28 PM PDT by VinL
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BFD.
What's he got for working-class whites?
“And 4500 irreplaceable heroes dead, 20 000+ maimed, and $4 trillion wasted, for nothing.”
You’re not going to get an argument on that from me.
However the war with Iraq was pretty popular here of FR at the time.
I was still a lurker then and remember a lot of posts about “Bitch slapping France” and all that immature crap about Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.
I will say that in the long run I think a lot of Freepers stopped seeing things in strict Republican versus Democrat terms.
JMHO but the letter behind their name doesn’t mean as much anymore and in reality it’s the elites against the rest of us.
The crowds that Ted Cruz is getting at his recent campaign stops among this crowed field is truely remarkable.
The “ not getting any traction “ meme is religated to Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Rick Perry, etc.
It all depends on what you mean by not getting traction, and perspective.
If your talking about the likes like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Rick Perry, Carly, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee , Chris Cristy ( a flight risk to bolt on over to the DNC ) then sure, no traction.
However ?
Ted Cruz is on the rise slowly, and has raised more money from small donors than anyone else in the field including Jeb Bush, that’s a good indicator of his all around support.
Putting your money where your mouth is speaks louder than just talk, people can say whatever, but actually supporting a canidate with your money says a totally different thing.
The amount of money Ted Cruz has raised so far guarantees that he makes it to the convention.
Since the debates his over all support and polls numbers has risen.
The losers ? Rand Paul, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, Chris Cristy, and soon Carly.
He’s third place in the most recent poll from fox news. I don’t see how you can say that’s not trending. What do you think will happen once Christie, Paul and Perry drop out? Maybe some will go to Trump, but the lion’s share will go to Cruz.
As far as appealing to the other side, that’s what the man is known for, friend. You don’t become an all-star debater at Princeton, some would say best in the country, by not winning people over to your side of the argument. The man was able to get the liberals on the Supreme Court to agree with him as solicitor general on cases against Obama and the United Nations. That takes talent. This guy is more intelligent than anyone else up there except maybe Dr. Carson.
Well I love Ted Cruz but he’s not polling well. 8%-9% is not good. I think that whether you are happy about it or not Trump has the bullhorn and he’s gotten so far ahead on the hot button issues its going to be hard to catch up.
Cruz is playing it as smart as possible. He’s the only one who is drafting Trump. Staying right on his bumper and getting pulled along.
Yes a good analogy. Trump is going to get the Indie and disaffected Dem vote. All good.
How about repealing Obamacare? If McConnell wasn’t such a chump, Cruz would’ve single-handedly been able to get concessions from Obama. As president, he’ll throw the thing out. Trump will unfortunately either keep it or turn it fully into a single-payer, socialist system like the UK has. That’s just not something I can support.
Additionally, Cruz has talked about implementing a flat tax and abolishing the IRS as president. I don’t think any other candidate is saying that. For me, the federal tax system needs serious reform... start from scratch. Trump would likely keep things the way they are, possibly even “tax the rich” more as he’s proposed before. Doesn’t sound to good for working class whites...
Bob ? That’s how McCain, Romney lost, not only by being the squshy middle moderate, but appealing to moderates, independents.
And that’s how Reagan won, sticking to his convictions and principles, and ? By him being persuasive and a great communicator drew in moderates, independents.
We have tried cycle after cycle of appealing to the squshy middle, it doesn’t work.
We don’t need anymore moderate campaign conservatives who are “ yes men “ on the campaign trail, only for the true nature of the beast to be seen once elected.
I think you’re judging that way too early, darlin. We’ll see what happens. I just can’t believe that after Romney the GOP want another candidate that supports universal healthcare. I don’t want bureaucrats running the healthcare system and turning it into the post office. :(
I looked at Ted Cruz's resume last night and I found that in his life he was only in a private law practice one year. The rest of his whole adult working life he has been in government. How can this guy have any understanding of the real issues this country faces if he is a professional politician with no real experience other than government.
That in a nutshell is what is fundamentally wrong with the political system today. People making laws and regulations with absolutely no idea of what they are doing and the consequences if their actions.
Well Sugar maybe you should listen to what Trump really thinks about Healthcare which is private policies in a totally open marketplace with a safety net for the ones who cannot afford insurance. Pretty much what we should have had all along.
As for Cruz only time will tell but he has just not gained traction and blind loyalty will only get you so far down the line. If Cruz is not pulling the numbers with his own base how do you expect him to win a general election? At this point I am very concerned he will not. Trump has a wide appeal. Hillary voters who are unhappy with her will vote Trump. Cruz not so much.
Trump chased Sessions, not the reverse.
Use your head; Trump is a dufus, and needs approval of real people. Sessions wasn’t interested in Trump.
They have constantly risen, not reversed.
Indeed Trump did chase Sessions. Yeah. Goes to the best for help. Has Cruz gone to Sessions or anyone of his stature?
Cruz is the man.
His record is the most exemplary of any candidate, past or present.
The fact that you had to ask indicates that you should be reading, not posting, until you’re up to speed.
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Indeed Trump did chase Sessions. Yeah. Goes to the best for help. Has Cruz gone to Sessions or anyone of his stature?
Too bad Cruz didn’t go to Sessions for some advice before he jumped in the sack with Paul Amnesty Ryan to enable the passage of TPA.
Cruz’s decision to support lowering the bar to pass Obama’s secret “trade” deals is looking worse with each passing day as kenyan rams through his Iran deal (with a similar lower the bar to passage game plan).
You are factually wrong
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