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Clinton's SMTP Packets Sent Through Routers Easily Examined By Bots
Alas Babylon! is a Micorsoft Certified Trainer in Exchange, among other server products ^ | 12 August 2015 | Alas Babylon!

Posted on 08/12/2015 5:03:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: RayChuang88

Huh? I advise and work with a lot of companies—mostly small ones—and government agencies that run their own MS Exchange organizations.

No doubt any kind of server needs extensive protection today, but most of the reasons some organizations are going to Office 365 (which comes with Exchange Online) is they don’t have to maintain the servers—update them, back them up, provide fault tolerance and high availability, repair them when they crash or restore contents when drives go bad. And, email is already half in the cloud if your correspondents are primarily non-employees.

Anyway, there are still a huge number of on premise Exchange organizations out there... I can’t speak on other systems, such as Lotus Notes, etc. since that is not my expertise.


61 posted on 08/12/2015 1:15:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: cynwoody

Current POTUS couldn’t GET a clearance!

Shroom club membership itself would ensure that.


62 posted on 08/12/2015 1:16:58 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: RayChuang88
In short, there's a reason why many companies no longer have on-site e-mail servers--maintaining security is extremely difficult to do and requires extremely sophisticated hardware, including hardware-based security solutions like the dedicated rack-mount computers from Barracuda Networks.

All the Barracuda appliances I've seen have been email content oriented (anti-spam and anti-malware/virus). They don't really protect the Exchange server OS beyond insulating it from the public network by acting as a mail proxy. If you're running Exchange, you can use an Edge Transport server at the boundary to do the same thing, or you can out-source that much of it to Microsoft or companies like Postini, and still keep your Exchange servers and mail stores on-site.

63 posted on 08/12/2015 1:30:22 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Alas Babylon!
But one really wonders if Hillary Clinton--trying to keep that mail server secret--didn't do due diligence in securing that e-mail server properly. Especially with frequent software updates to the server and e-mail software itself.
64 posted on 08/12/2015 1:47:32 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

Absolutely great question. My take is no. I would, however, imagine her administrator would have had the foresight to do so.

The problem is she’s sending what amounts to highly classified data wrapped in normal SMTP traffic that’s routing to—probably—recipients in foreign countries. I mean she is SOS. I’m sure she used her private account to send private messages to foreign secretaries, ministers, etc.

Wouldn’t those packets become VERY HIGH VALUE to just about any professional/national intelligence agents on the web???

The only way I could see them NOT getting access to them is that they would think no American high-ranking government official would be so stupid as to do this in the first place and therefore never look for them.

HOWEVER, consider the NSA and how they copy EVERYTHING and NOT examine it (so they say) but can go back to all this archived data and scan for stuff specifically. So, if some foreign intelligence agency, say the Chinese were recording mass amounts of SMTP traffic, say stuff coming from Washington DC area IP Addresses/routers, then couldn’t they now—like today, start their intensive data mining operations (pull all packets with “SMTP FROM: X@Clinton.com“)?

And let’s face the truth; why did Hillary do this—set up her own server—in the first place?

In my humble opinion she thought that this would prevent nasty Republicans and other do-gooders like the people in the government charged with enforcing the law wouldn’t be able to subpoena her records, emails, etc., and she could get away with all kinds of mischief by using the private mail system which no one would know about or dare try to prevent her from using.

And one final thing, what was Bubba doing with it? I bet he had lots of accounts, too. I could not care less if he was signing up for AshleyMadison.com, or making liaisons with big-boobed porno stars, but I’ll bet he used it to discuss stuff with others that shouldn’t have been public, either. Maybe even Obama...


65 posted on 08/12/2015 3:22:02 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson

Ping to you technical geniuses!

Who do you think has copies of the Clinton email server’s sent SMTP packets?


66 posted on 08/12/2015 3:26:25 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

Anyone who wants it.


67 posted on 08/12/2015 3:29:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Old Sarge; Gefn; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; ...
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I have had it up to HERE with your snooping. Move along. There is nothing to see.

68 posted on 08/12/2015 4:00:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: central_va
I would think the choice would be between Biden and whoever. Despite his early gaffes, Biden knows where some bodies are buried, and could be counted on to be a good trooper and continue all the Obamastuff for the Globalist Totalitarians.

They are about a decade 'behind schedule'. Rockefeller was supposed to step up when Gerry Ford stepped down, only Ford didn't and Rockefeller croaked (I heard three different versions on the radio in 1/2 hour before they settled on the 'official' story). That set the plan back, as did Ronald Reagan, and they've been scrambling to catch up ever since.

69 posted on 08/12/2015 4:16:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the simplification
She certainly cannot plead ignorance of the law.
Looks like her demand for control has finally caught up
Numbers will continue to drop, but they may have to drag her out.


70 posted on 08/12/2015 4:20:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet!)
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To: BlueNgold

BlueNgold wrote:

“The more I read the worse it gets.

No normal person could survive this professionally...”

Yup, if we did this, we’d be in jail for a loooong time.


71 posted on 08/12/2015 5:28:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Crystal Palace East

The Obama’s don’t want Hillary to win.

I guess this means he’s done at least one thing right.


72 posted on 08/12/2015 5:36:12 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: McGruff

Oh I am sure there were plenty of outside services working on her server!


73 posted on 08/12/2015 5:43:19 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Alas Babylon!

This kills an idiot talking point echoed by Rivera today, if an email from a person with clearance goes to another person with clearance, then it’s OK.

When you and a friend are on Gmail and both of you use the web interface, all communication is HTTPS, and (probably) only the government can crack that and it is still very expensive and impossible to do “en masse” or (probably) in real-time AFAIK. Only the people at Google can potentially easily read it... :)


74 posted on 08/12/2015 6:59:29 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: The Antiyuppie
When you and a friend are on Gmail and both of you use the web interface, all communication is HTTPS, and (probably) only the government can crack that and it is still very expensive and impossible to do “en masse” or (probably) in real-time AFAIK.

Ever heard of "heartbleed"?

75 posted on 08/12/2015 7:03:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

I’m pretty sure the Google’s servers have defenses for that. We do at work.

It’s the ones that you don’t know about that get ya...


76 posted on 08/12/2015 7:06:03 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: WildHighlander57

“Yup, if we did this, we’d be in jail for a loooong time.”

For the wrong kind of top secret stuff, you might just disappear.


77 posted on 08/12/2015 7:07:02 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Once those two register for the TX primary, aren’t they covered by the “sore loser” law?


78 posted on 08/12/2015 7:09:39 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I’m pretty sure the Google’s servers have defenses for that. We do at work.

I'm pretty sure they do now, but that vulnerability was out there for a long time before it became public. But given Google's password policies and human nature I'd suspect they'd be as likely to have been compromised by weak passwords as a man-in-the-middle attack.

79 posted on 08/12/2015 7:14:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Even the “point to point” nature of HTTP or HTTPS traffic has the packets passing through multiple servers along the way. Any server forwarding such packets could certainly retain copies if it’s set up to do that.


80 posted on 08/12/2015 7:20:03 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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