Posted on 08/10/2015 5:07:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
What debate did he watch?
This one:
http://spectator.org/articles/63732/whining-isn%E2%80%99t-winning
[BIG SNIP]
“..And another question Wallace asked, about Trump’s business bankruptcies, was a disaster. His answer…
>>>TRUMP: Because I have used the laws of this country just like the greatest people that you read about every day in business have used the laws of this country, the chapter laws, to do a great job for my company, for myself, for my employees, for my family, et cetera.
I have never gone bankrupt, by the way. I have never.
But out of hundreds of deals…
WALLACE: No, but the concept sir…
TRUMP: Excuse me. Excuse me.
WALLACE: … that’s your line, but your companies have gone bankrupt.
TRUMP: Excuse me, what am I saying? Out of hundreds of deals that I’ve done, hundreds, on four occasions I’ve taken advantage of the laws of this country, like other people. I’m not going to name their names because I’m not going to embarrass, but virtually every person that you read about on the front page of the business sections, they’ve used the law.
The difference is, when somebody else uses those laws, nobody writes about it. When I use it, they say, “Trump, Trump, Trump.” The fact is, I built a net worth of more than $10 billion. I have a great, great company. I employ thousands of people. And I’m very proud of the job I did.
Again Chris, hundreds and hundreds of deals. Four times, I’ve taken advantage of the laws. And frankly, so has everybody else in my position.
WALLACE: Well sir, let’s just talk about the latest example which is Trump Entertainment Resorts, which went bankrupt in 2009. In that case alone, lenders to your company lost over $1 billion and more than 1,100 people were laid off.
TRUMP: Well, I…
WALLACE: Is that the way that you’d run the country?
TRUMP: Let me just tell you about the lenders. First of all, these lenders aren’t babies. These are total killers. These are not the nice, sweet little people that you think, OK?
You know, I mean you’re living in a world of the make-believe, Chris, you want to know the truth.
And I had the good sense to leave Atlantic City, which by the way, Caesars just went bankrupt. Every company, Chris can tell you, every company virtually in Atlantic City went bankrupt.
Every company.
And let me just tell you. I had the good sense, and I’ve gotten a lot of credit in the financial pages, seven years ago I left Atlantic City before it totally cratered, and I made a lot of money in Atlantic City, and I’m very proud of it. I want to tell you that. Very, very proud of it.
WALLACE: So…
TRUMP: And by the way, this country right now owes $19 trillion. And they need somebody like me to straighten out that mess.<<<
That’s a terrible answer, for a number of reasons. First, you absolutely never brag about going bankrupt. And second, you never.........”
[BIG SNIP]
If the Republicans have any sense, they will not allow debate moderators to be dominated by such Democrat Party minions and flaks from the networks or CNN, but insist that Baier, Kelly, and/or Wallace be on stage to give the proceedings some fairness and journalistic professionalism.
OK, the tabloid debate. Yes, I can see why the liberals love it. I don’t recall lofty political debate from that night.
Apparently one where Trump wasn’t singled out and called a liar from the get go and where Rubio didn’t land softball questions.
I would like to see a real debate.
“Shillman” Journalism Fellow, is he?! Love it!
Good grief. This guy’s happy pills must be phenomenal. The…the HIGH QUALITY of the debate’s moderators??!! ROFLMAO
In Trump’s one response quoted above, I count Trump using the word “I” 24 times in that one answer; “my, myself and me” = 8 times.
He’s ready to play in Obama’s narcissism league.
“........the high quality of the Fox News moderators, the toughness of their questions, and the sheer entertaining excitement of the shows.”........
What “debate” was this guy watching? As far as I am concerned, the so-called “debate” was nothing more than a question and answer session with an agenda, being to destroy Trump from the get go. The first two questions set the stage for that “circus” and the outcome has given all the media fodder for more of their propaganda. That second “debate” turned out to be a total disaster on the part of FOX.
Excellent article.
I loved the debate. I loved the gotchas. Every one of those candidates wanted to be there. They’re running for highest office, and the job is much tougher than any candidate forum.
Ask them questions they don’t want, press them to answer straight. Require them to explain their past mistakes and convince us they’ve learned from experience. Make them drop the talking points and speak directly. Make them tell us where they stand and convince us they’re up to the job. Let them squirm.
Do we really want another whiner in the White House?
Folks, the Presidency is much tougher than a 2-hour debate. If they can’t stand the heat, they shouldn’t be there.
Frankly, I thought all the candidates did well under pressure.
May the CNN debate next month be as tough.
I’ve watch debates for decades. The moderators were never the main talkers. In this reality TV performances, the moderators were the stars, the candidates were mere props. It was beyond pathetic.
The Clinton Foundations’ shady donors: Not quite the ‘everyday’ Americans Hillary claims to champion.
Some Clinton Foundation donors and board members’ shady dealings and criminal convictions should make voters sit up and take notice. The blockbuster “Clinton Cash” book details the power couple’s sordid circle.
•The SEC charged a Clinton Foundation trustee with misallocating $9.5M from his database company. Shareholders sued for using the company jet to fly the Clintons around and paying Bill Clinton a $3M consulting fee.
• A Clinton Foundation trustee was accused of paying Bahraini executives (roughly $52 million) to win sales contracts for US-based Alcoa which later settled with the DOJ for $384M.
• A Clinton Foundation trustee donated to Hillary’s campaigns...gave the Clintons millions in honoraria and millions more to the foundation. The trustee was arrested for allegedly defrauding a bank. He pleaded guilty in a Bklyn court to “funneling more than $180,000 in illegal contributions to three federal candidates,” Hillary among them.
• An Indian legislator sat at the head table at the Clinton Global Initiative and dined privately with the Clintons at their home. He gave between $1-5 million to the Clinton Foundation....then was arrested for bribing members of parliament WRT a US-Indian nuclear-technology agreement....he was booted from his party, ending his political career.
• Claudio Osorio fundraised for Hillary and supported the Clinton Global Initiative. He falsified federal applications and bilked US taxpayers to score a loan of $10M tax dollars to build homes in earthquake-ravaged Haiti. Osorio was convicted of financial fraud, using humanitarian assistance “for personal benefit,” and got 12 years in federal prison.
• He was on the federal terrorist no-fly list yet a Lebanese-British businessman donated $460,000 to Miami Democrats for voter-registration and attended the Clintons’ WH Christmas party. He was later convicted of money-laundering and “aiding a criminal organization WRT billions of dollars stolen from Nigeria.
His company pledged $1 billion to the Clinton Global Initiative. The eco-minded Clinton awarded him a prize for “sustainable development.”
Yo Bruce. I'd insist that Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Mark Steyn, Andrew McCarthy .... be on stage to give the proceedings a true conservative perspective on issues that matter.
Nice attempt at a snowjob. Polish the fecal bolus (Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls) that Faux News blew out Thursday night and see if you can sell it as a great event and a new model to be followed in the future.
Sorry. You can even link it to the Horowitz name and I still ain’t buying. And if Mr. Horowitz actually concurs with your appraisal of Thursday night’s charade, all I can say is, I beg to differ. Everybody occasionally burns their toast. Sorry about your toast, Mr. Horowitz.
Thursday night’s disappointment can best be described as 2 hours of snide, triumphalist gotcha “questions” couched as an accusative condemnation, rather than a query, for a few of the candidates. Virtual ignoring of one or more others - how ya’ feeling Ted Cruz, my man? And brown-nosing, flattering statements masquerading as questions for a few “preferred” candidates. I’m sure YOU feel the love, dontcha, Jebby?
And as for “even progressive liberals learning something from it”....My view is that they learned, or they HAD WHAT THEY ALREADY KNEW REINFORCED....That if you have the host network, Faux News, and the “moderators”, Baier, Wallace and Kelly prostituted to the plan to sandbag some candidates and provide tee ball rests for certain others, the sham debate should go just the way you want it to go.
Too bad Mr. Trump didn’t roll over and play dead for the faux mods. And how gauche and ungentlemanly of Mr. Trump to instantly perceive that the fix was in, to eat the mods’ lunches and bitch slap them with their empty lunch sacks.
Worse luck next time!
I will be interested to see if your panel scrutinizes (or at least gives equal time to) Trump’s policies and party affiliation over the years - along with his donations (majority to Democrats) and endorsements and accolades.
Walker does the same thing...But he uses the word 'we'...Apparently wants to spread the blame around a little...
Gov. Scott Walker works with people - the voters, legislators, etc. - that’s why he wins.
Looks like there’s a lot of “burning toast” these days.
Maybe you are mistaken and it’s not burnt toast but Trump roast.
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