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Psychiatry Ain't What It Used To Be
Townhall.com ^ | July 19, 2015 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 07/19/2015 6:00:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/19/2015 6:00:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There is no need for psychotherapy or psychiatrists, the left as declared all former mental problems now as a “normal special interest victim group” to be loved, cherished and demand that they are accepted by society no matter how (previously) insane they would have been and should be now evaluated as.

I would not be surprised to find a movement by the left to outlaw psychology and psychiatry as occupations.


2 posted on 07/19/2015 6:12:54 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaslin

Apologies in advance to any Freeper MDs out there, but I don’t trust most medical doctors. I trust psychologists and psychiatrists even less. This is based on personal experience with various MDs, dentists and one family psychologist over the years.

Regardless of what oath they take, they are people in the end interested in making $$. Sick people generate more revenue than healthy ones. I am in my mid-50s. When doctors find out I am taking NO prescription meds, they are always surprised. Even though I am healthy, they still try to recommend some. I kid you not. Its an industry like any other.


3 posted on 07/19/2015 6:18:47 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Kaslin

It seems that I know more people that were not helped or their situation worsened as a result of a psychologist.


4 posted on 07/19/2015 6:19:04 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: GreyFriar

So I guess there is no need for research on Alzheimer’s. We can just bring them to your house and you can cure them?

Your comment is akin to the folks who pray over a broken leg and hope it gets cured.


5 posted on 07/19/2015 6:19:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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” folks who pray over a broken leg and hope it gets cured.”

If you pray over it for 4-6 weeks, it will get cured.


6 posted on 07/19/2015 6:21:28 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: rbg81

My guess is that you can do research and make informed decisions. That’s a great.

Most medical treatment, aside from accidents, can be affected by eating right, moving around, and not taking poisons into your system. A trip to the ER at any hospital will confirm that.

However, when your condition is a little more complicated—including things like PTSD, Alzheimer’s, and other acute brain issues these doctors are key to research and treatment.

Just as most folks can do a brake job or change their oil...a valve job or transmission work requires different tools.


7 posted on 07/19/2015 6:24:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: RFEngineer

Yes, it will heal. If you are happy with walking like a gimp from the Middle Ages, you will be fine.


8 posted on 07/19/2015 6:25:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

I was being sarcastic and thought it was obvious.

However, Alzheimer’s, which my late aunt and a best friend’s mother has, are in the medical realm, rather than Freudian psychology/psychiatry area; as it has been explained to me.


9 posted on 07/19/2015 6:26:20 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaslin
There was a time when most of what I knew about psychiatrists came from Woody Allen

There was a time when most of what I knew about psychiatrists came from my psychiatry training.

Psychiatry as an active, clinical specialty has been destroyed by the government. The greatest opportunities for an MD psychiatrist today are a) private practice in Manhattan or San Francisco, or b) working for a public agency signing thousands of prescriptions a week for patients you've never seen, because psych social workers can't prescribe (yet).

10 posted on 07/19/2015 6:29:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.hich)
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I would not be surprised to find a movement by the left to outlaw psychology and psychiatry as occupations.<>

Not going to happen because the left so dominates both of them. What we are seeing instead are these three phenomenon:

  1. The inmates are running the asylum.
  2. Politically incorrect types of psychotherapy such as reversing same sex attraction or taking personal responsibility will be outlawed, whether or not they are effective.
  3. When the perception of the mentally ill clash with reality, then reality will cosmetically be altered to correspond with the perception.

All of us can see real life examples of each of the above.
11 posted on 07/19/2015 6:31:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Yes, it will heal. If you are happy with walking like a gimp from the Middle Ages, you will be fine.”

Hey, man, don’t mock my God!


12 posted on 07/19/2015 6:34:23 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Freedom of religion and all that stuff. Go for it.

Me? I take my kids to a barber for a good bloodletting a couple of times a year. So, we can agree to disagree, agreeably!


13 posted on 07/19/2015 6:37:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Bloodletting? Leeches, boy, leeches are the latest in bad blood removal.


14 posted on 07/19/2015 6:44:57 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Kaslin

Not too long ago there was a clear division in psychiatry over two distinct forms of mental illness: organic and induced.

A good way to compare the two is with psychopathy and sociopathy.

Psychopathy is a “spectrum state of mind” in which a person does not empathize with others. A little bit of it is essential for people to function, more than that is useful in providing objectivity to emotional situations, more than average makes for good leadership. Beyond that it starts to become pathological and dehumanizing to others. In the extreme, other people are nothing more than objects to be used or abused with indifference. Only a small number of “psychopaths” are unable to adjust their behavior so as not to criminally offend.

And all of psychopathy is a natural state of mind, how your brain is wired.

Sociopathy achieves a similar result, but it is trained behavior. If addressed before adulthood, sociopaths can be retrained so as not to be abusive. After adulthood, it is usually set for life.

In any event, if a person suffers from any number of organic problems, including brain damage and trauma, they need medical care before psychiatric therapy. And granted there can be some overlap between organic and induced mental problems, such as PTSD subsequent to a concussion.


15 posted on 07/19/2015 6:45:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Vermont Lt; GreyFriar
If you will re-read GreyFriar's response, he said that the Left would move to outlaw the psychology and psychiatry professions, because insane people are now regarded by the Left as misunderstood and under-respected minorities.

That wasn't GreyFriar's personal stance on these professions.

16 posted on 07/19/2015 6:51:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Recent advances in reading comprehenson.)
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When the SHTF who’s going to supply all of those meds?


17 posted on 07/19/2015 6:55:22 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I just jump on one of my motorcycles to deal with depression. If I come home in one piece it makes my day.


18 posted on 07/19/2015 6:55:33 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Mrs. Don-o

As Michael Savage says, liberalism IS a mental disorder.


19 posted on 07/19/2015 7:12:36 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: RFEngineer
If you pray over it for 4-6 weeks, it will get cured.

Not by it self.

20 posted on 07/19/2015 7:32:01 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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