Posted on 07/07/2015 5:02:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
>>And again, you havent answered my two questions because YOU CANNOT ANSWER THEM.
Scripture answers your questions, you just don’t like what it says — especially in the Context of Romans 1:25..
When Created Things (like your free market wine) become objects of worship - the manure wagon is headed for the Rainbow wind-tunnel, again.
No, your scripture answers are avoidance techniques. You know, I’ve never talked with someone or heard Bible teachers who wouldn’t explain their points....until you. Since you won’t, I assume you can’t.
And what is your obsession with “Created things” - and worship. Seriously, the Creator has given inspiration to all created things, so you are shaming the Creator when you say this. So you have shamed at least two thirds of the Trinity now, and the Founding Fathers.
We are so lucky to have you, the most spiritually in tuned and brilliant person in world history, to tell us where God and the Founders messed up.
Ex 32:4 4
NIV
A system like that, in the Macro sense?
A opposed to this one:
Mark 10:21-22 21 22
NIV
Uhuh.
Rom 1:25-32 25 26 28
NIV
Anyone with common sense can see the process unfolding, again.
>>Ive never talked with someone or heard Bible teachers who wouldnt explain their points....
Sola Scriptura.
What does this mean?
Sounds like similar, non-scriptural, arguments used by homosexuals to pervert forgiveness of sin into permission to sin.
After all, God didnt create any mistakes.... so how could their sexual perversion not be acceptable.
Evidently Sex is a system, like all temporal things, that is prone to corruption too.
Sort of like "fiscal" conservatism.
Well thank you for manning up and actually using your own words to try and answer something. And predictably, you have proven my case for me. If homosexuality were an indictment of all sex - that would mean all sex is evil. Maybe you think that way. Heck, you probably live that way. I've heard nothing about children. Maybe you're a eunuch.
Thus, it's only the perversion that is the problem, not sex itself.
By analogy, the perversion of the market (always done by government - and then taken advantage of by cronies) is not an indictment of the market itself.It's just an indictment of that perversion.
By your own sexual analogy. Which is what I've been saying, and what you've been calling "worship." I advocate for the free market system. I don't advocate for perverting it - I simply state, and you cannot refute it, that free markets and property are the sanctity of life outside the womb - because property is what you get in exchange for giving of your time and your abilities. That's all money, which is a form of property, is.
Money is not the problem. The market is not the problem. There is far more greed and corruption in Oligarchical systems and statist Marxist systems than there is in a market system. The wisdom of God in the market system is that it sets up for billions of win/win transactions that benefit every party in that transaction. Do people pervert that? Of course. That's an indictment of them as individuals or companies, not an indictment of the market.
>>There is far more greed and corruption in Oligarchical systems and statist Marxist systems than there is in a market system
Ex 32:4
Then they said, "These are your gods,
b O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt."
NIV
"these" are all of the above - Oligarchs, States, Markets - whatever people choose to focus and rely upon instead of their Creator.
God's 1st commandment doesn't differentiate the idolatry you refuse to acknowledge. Whenever He isn't first, Idolatry exists along with the associated due penalties that can plainly be read about in Romans 1:25+, and seen today.
"The problem is not the successes of capitalism, but rather its idealization; one that blinds us to reality"
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865599679/The-untouchable-free-market-Dangers-of-idolatry.html?pg=all
It's a painful truth to realize that something we IDEAlize has become an instrument in our self-destruction.
But:
"The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true."
--Albert Einstein
you’re done....just sayin.....you’re done. This venue does not welcome the views of blatant enemies of the free market system.
But:
"The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true."
--Albert Einstein
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Main articles: Albert Einstein's political views and Albert Einstein's religious views
Einstein's political view was in favor of socialism and critical of capitalism, which he detailed in his essays such as "Why Socialism?". Einstein offered and was called on to give judgments and opinions on matters often unrelated to theoretical physics or mathematics. He strongly advocated the idea of a democratic global government that would check the power of nation-states in the framework of a world federation.
Einstein's views about religious belief have been collected from interviews and original writings. He called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. Einstein once wrote: "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly".
Source: Wikipedia
It’s kind of hard to imagine a “Democratic global government” that doesn’t operate within a framework of law - aka a Republic.
Is America a Republic or a Democracy? It’s both or neither...or at least not American. Without the framework of law that secures the inalienable rights of the governed - American Government Of the People, By the People, and For the People, wouldn’t exist.
“TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS”
From who or what? It’s from the tyranny of the majority as much as it is from the merchant who uses dishonest scales.
I've experienced self-evidence of a Creator who intervenes on a personal and individual level in my life - so I can't agree with Einstein on that.
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