Posted on 06/11/2015 1:37:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
That's right.
www.killedbypolice.net seems to be a good effort to track the ARD data But personally I want federal government tables. Though not always 100-percent trustworthy nevertheless I tire of seeing columnists or "DoJ says" used as sources of data.
The BJS ARD data I posted are several years old but the yearly numbers approach (75% ?) what www.killedbypolice.net says were killed in one year. And the BJS specified that not all local police departments were included in the ARD data.
Yup. To figure out how big a problem you have, you first need accurate numbers. Without them everybody stumbles around in a fog of positive or negative assumptions.
Get the numbers! Then we can argue about what they mean and what, if anything, we should do about it.
BTW, the article pulls one of the most idiotic of all attempts to mislead people. “A black person is killed by cops every 28 hours!” or whatever the number is.
This intentionally misleads people by failing to specify what a reasonable number should be. Should we expect one black person killed by cops every 2.8 hours, 280 hours or 2800 hours? If you pick a number, explain why it’s appropriate and why exceeding it is wrong. But they never do. These numbers, by intention, are free-floating and meaningless.
The link you post is at 508 for the year, which implies somewhere around 1100 for the year. Of course, somebody needs to go thru and vet each of those reports to see if they’re valid.
FBI stats seem to run around 400 something for a year, which is less than 50% of the number in your link.
The ARD data I am using are at the link above. That is from my original posting of the several tables combined into one. I included the link to my original table above in reply #12.
The 1000 is for 2014 More Than 1,000 People Have Been Killed by Police in 2014
This is where I just learned of www.killedbypolice.net. I did not include the Reason link above.
.. looking at the ARD numbers that I got from BJS they are actually in the 60% - 70% range; but I as noted BJS IIRC said that the ARD data did not include all police departments in the country.
OK. That makes sense. Whenever you want to deal with any issue, the first and most important factor is to quantify it.
FUMB
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