Texas biker shootout: Can 174 people be convicted of murder?

star.com ^ | May 31, 2015 | Naomi Martin

[Robert Teesdale]

All of them as far as we know. Police set up an ambush, kill a bunch of people, and charge the rest with murder.

Welcome to 21st century America.

[don-o]

The Act is the shooting by one or more Actors.

But, they have the cart before the horse. More accurately, they have a cart and no horse. Two weeks later, there is no one charged with murder.

[IamConservative]

Whomever gets called at this trial as the ballistics expert is going to have their hands full. Had to be an crime scene that produced mountains of ballistics evidence.

[wastoute]

I read “500 rounds fired”. That seems a lot but if four shooters empty their 30 round magazines it is still 120. And only 9 killed? Thank God those guys can’t shoot! It would be nice to know who those four are so they could receive induction into the Lon Horiuhchi Hall of Shame. Is there anyone left who believes the trigger happy quartet acted reasonably or within the law?

[don-o]

The question is can 12 angry people in McLennon County, Texas convict them of anything they want to?

And there is a stream of thought that the jury can nullify the law under which they are charged.

[DungeonMaster]

Texas biker shootout: Can 174 people be convicted of murder?

Not if they were cops, politicians or generally rich.

[Travis McGee]

“So yes there is someone who is promoting an agenda. I don’t think it is based in Texas. But I have an idea who it is.”

Remember the live anthrax supposedly sent all over the place by “accident” last week?

JULY 2015 HEADLINE:

“Right wing extremist Soldier absconds with live anthrax mistakenly sent to Army base lab! Anthrax thief has ties to violent criminal biker gang!”

(Did the anthrax thing really happen, or are we being fed a plot element of Jade Helm 15?)

[mad_as_he$$]

That will be the rub.

[mad_as_he$$]

So any colors/ Or just the clubs involved - Banditos and Cossaks in the deaths? Sticky definition. Going after the bikers for Jesus guys in TX should be interesting.

[Travis McGee]

The way I see it, ATF was running the show with the Waco SWAT Team as their b!itches.

Local LEOs, especially SWAT, are often bucking for a transfer/promotion/elevation over to the FLE side. This desire to curry favor and impress the FLEAs makes local SWAT teams putty in the hands of the feds.

Willing b!tches.

[davetex]

Yeah, I don’t know about any and all colors.

[wastoute]

If your suspicions begin to seem true I would not want to be one of these ATF types. They sure as hell don’t outnumber us and be far do not outgun us.

[Texas Fossil]

Obama’s minions are capable of anything. No treachery is too low for them.

Expose em all.

[Texas Fossil]

None of this happens by accident.

[Crystal Palace East]

Let me explain Texas.

These motorcyclists, who are a bunch of “peckerwoods who ain’t from round here” came to Waco to cause trouble... and a jury there will give it to them.

[Crystal Palace East]

Why the rush. By Tx law, there is no Statute of Limitations on a murder charge.

The Texas Ranger, who are still very much real, will take their time to bring the charges to a Grand Jury; probably 2-3 months.

And when they do so, they will have the sworn testimony of at least 20 other biker scum who rolled over on the perps.

[Texas Fossil]

“Let me explain Texas.”

I don’t need it explained.

[don-o]

Why the rush. By Tx law, there is no Statute of Limitations on a murder charge.

They have charged 170 with criminal conspiracy. The law requires an overt act. Unless someone is charged with something, there is no overt act.

[don-o]

The question is can 12 angry people in McLennon County, Texas convict them of anything they want to? You betcha.

Nonsense.

Oh, and welcome to Free Republic.

[Crystal Palace East]

Actually, no. There is no requirement to define the overt act as to who the actor was. The dead bodies speak for themselves.

Example: Apple, Brown and Charlie plan an armed robbery of a 7-11. Apple and Brown, both armed, go into store. One shoots clerk and clerk dies.

Charlie never goes inside, just stays in car as getaway driver.

No one is sure if it was Apple or Brown who shot clerk, but one did. All three, Apple, Brown and Charlie can be charged with murder.