Posted on 05/25/2015 8:58:50 AM PDT by Altenkrug
>> You think every Muslim should be killed? Then you should be willing to participate personally. Let’s line up 10 little Muslim girls, tied up for your convenience, and you cut their throats.
I despise hyperbole, and I despise loud talkers unwilling to back up their bloviating even more. <<
Do you think those 10 little muslim girls would stay muslim if given freedom and a choice?
Nice hyperbole, by the way.
Right after WWII they started letting them in to be cheap labor for rebuilding Europe.
Americans unlike Belgians are not disarmed & helpless.
Here, if a muzzie makes threats like that, he then has to walk down the sidewalk & guess which “infidel” might be packing a weapon along with an attitude against Islam. Kinda like “a rifle behind every blade of grass” if you get my drift.
Wearing muzzie garb along with the hatchet face typical of Pakis & Arabs makes target identification even easier.
Muzzies in an America swarming with armed “infidels” generally refrain from issuing overt threats like their brethren do in Europe. Instead they practice “lawfare” or other tactics such as the “swimming pool veto” as noted.
I understand they make some great beers in Belgium, and their hunting shotguns are second to none. Both however are available here, so why travel there?
I despise hyperbole, and I despise loud talkers unwilling to back up their bloviating even more.
In a hyperbolic situation.. LESS THAN hyperbole is DISINFORMATION.. or propaganda..
Outrage must be hyperbolic OR it isn’t outrage..
Democrats, RINOs and Muslims HATE hyperbole.. except when THEY use it..
Due to this diversity, there really isn't a "mainstream Sufi" view.
As far as the questions, I've actually discussed these with him:
1. Nothing. He doesn't have a problem with pictures, though he doesn't like to see people make fun of his Prophet. He might conceivably go talk to them about not doing it again, but probably not. He's not big on confrontation. :)
2. Nothing. "There is no compulsion in religion."
I make no claim he's a typical Muslim or a typical convert. When he converted, not many Americans were really aware Islam existed.
Interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply.
You ignore long stretches of history in which that command was a part of everyday life in many parts of the world: in both what is now the Muslim world and in Spain, the Balkans and Sicily during the periods when they were under Muslim rule, the Christian or Jew who paid his jizya and kept his head down was left alone until some Muslim, any Muslim, not necessarily one in authority, felt an imagined insult or wanted some of his property, at which point a trumped up charge was brought before a Muslim court, which invariably found against the non-Muslim, but typically offered conversion to Islam as an alternative to the death sentence pronounced. This was an everyday occurrence.
You make a good point but most folks I know would rather die than live under islam.
They don’t actually claim it’s peaceful, only our leftists do.
I’ve never seen any numbers on how many Christians and Jews hang around to pay the jizya after a muslim conquest, but I would bet that most would flee or die fighting.
I think not. Most people don’t flee their homes or die fighting when their country is conquered. Spain was majority Christian and had a large Jewish population all during the period of Muslim rule, likewise in all the countries of the Balkans after the Turkish conquest — even the Muslim Albanians and Bosniaks are descendents of Christians who stayed. Egypt was majority Coptic Christian for centuries after the Muslim conquest.
The choice for reform is on the muslims, not on the Christains or Jews.
Yet the very words of the Pederast Prophet preclude reformation as they are allegedly the revelation of Allah and are therefor not open to interpretation or reformation. Islam is either taken in whole or not at all. Anything else is blasphemy.
Inevitably, the West will have to deal with the muslim problem. Islam will have to reform itself, or be annihilated in some sort of “final solution”. Absent that, the west will have to capitulate to Islam.
Those are the only two choices. Islam has been at war with the world for 1400 years, I don’t see that changing without some sort of duress.
We all know individual muslims who have splendid qualities, and are fine people, but where is the call for reformation is Islam...or Islam to stop it’s violent conquest? Does you friend dare to say these things, or does he keep his mouth shut out of fear of the more devout elements?
I am looking at the horizon, not at my feet. It is evident to anyone who cares to look that there is a final confrontation coming. It may be unpalatable, but it will have to be dealt with in one way or another.
Facts.
I will do some digging this week on this subject and let you know what I find.
That said, you might be right. Or you might be wrong.
BTW, Mohammed was by our definition a pedophile, not a pederast. They are not the same thing. Though he might have been a pederast, too, for all I know.
"Pederasty or paederasty (US /ˈpɛdəræsti/ or UK /ˈpiːdəræsti/) is a (usually erotic) homosexual relationship between an adult male and a pubescent or adolescent male."
Pedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to young (pre-pubescent) children.
Fleeing wasn’t nearly as practical 1000 years ago as it is today. The Middle East is rapidly losing its minority religious groups for the simple reason that they have places to go.
1000 years ago, not so much. A peasant who fled lost everything and went into a land where he didn’t speak the language and had no way to earn a living comparable to what he had before fleeing.
However, quite a few did flee into Byzantine lands and were settled by the emperors along the borders as peasant/soldiers, the rough equivalent of the later Cossacks. The Habsburgs did much the same along their Military Frontiers.
“Islamic extremists in Belgium have publicly threatened to kill the mayor of the Belgian city of Antwerp, Bart De Wever, if he does not convert to Islam, local media reported Monday.”
Well, how quaint.
In the immortal words of Marine General Mattis: Be polite. Be professional. But always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
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