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Report claims U.S. Government created the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)
NJ Today ^ | 05/24/2015

Posted on 05/24/2015 5:20:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Jonty30
We can either use whole US departments on individual terrorists and try to find them or attract them all to a single region and get them all at once.

That "single region" is bigger than ever before and growing.
21 posted on 05/24/2015 5:55:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Angela Keaton, the founder of Antiwar.com, said that ISIS is "entirely a creation of the United States’ behavior in Iraq."
Antiwar dot com is a banned source on FR for good reason. Regardless: Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad


22 posted on 05/24/2015 6:03:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: cripplecreek

Growing, for now. Assuming this is the strategy, they are probably waiting to maximize the opportunity. It’s a one strike situation.

The Western work would not be able to do this again.


23 posted on 05/24/2015 6:03:35 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

Your argument relies on an assumption that ISIS has a fixed supply of manpower. Unless you have all Sunni Moslems going to Syria/Iraq, they will keep reloading from the Sunni Moslem population.


24 posted on 05/24/2015 6:06:18 PM PDT by sagar
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To: SeekAndFind
There is an islamic state of Iraq because Obama cut and ran.

Bush left a new-born democracy! ...Obama left us ISIS.


25 posted on 05/24/2015 6:09:10 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: sagar

That is true. However, if it is true and it works, it would put down any mass terrorist acts for a couple of generations.


26 posted on 05/24/2015 6:09:15 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pass the tinhats.


27 posted on 05/24/2015 6:10:42 PM PDT by ZULU (Boehner and McConnell are Obama's Strumpets.)
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To: Jonty30; sagar

You’re putting an awful lot of stock in your own extremely optimistic theory. They’re now spread in large numbers from Pakistan to Morocco, into sub Saharan Africa. They’re invading Europe at an astounding rate and those we aren’t inviting in are sneaking across the borders or radicalizing here.


28 posted on 05/24/2015 6:13:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: smokingfrog
Seems like to me that ISIS didn’t really take off until after we helped overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.


29 posted on 05/24/2015 6:14:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One whxo commands, must obey.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The militant group ISIS was formed as a small insurgent group in Iraq in 2006. Swann noted that while they tried to create problems for the U.S. military, they had no money and no real ability to recruit.

“It wasn’t until 2009 that ISIS shifted its focus from Iraq, where it was largely unsuccessful in developing a foothold, and focused on the civil war in Syria,” Swann said.

What BS. What luck that a small, insignificant group in Iraq found a home in a destabilized Syria!

Obama's JV team came home to roost.

What I find interesting is that the Left has no problems in saying we should have supported Hussein and left him alone. But they get all verklempft about supporting Assad in his fight against ISIS.

30 posted on 05/24/2015 6:15:04 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (If Al Sharpton would pay his taxes, two million kids could eat school lunch for one year)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m not putting stock or credibility into anything. I’m only taking the idea of this and drawing a conclusion as to why it might have been done, if it had been done.

The one thing that is noted, which does give support for the idea is how quickly Al Queada and ISIS came together. Regardless of what is the truth, there had to be a deep foundation in the movements to bring them together and hold them together.


31 posted on 05/24/2015 6:22:14 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama proclaimed victory in 201l - “we are leaving behind a secure, stable Iraq.” Why doesn’t anyone remember that?


32 posted on 05/24/2015 6:56:14 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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“They’re invading Europe at an astounding rate”

This is nothing new. Middle/Near Easterners have been invading Europe for the last 40,000 years. They killed off the Neanderthals and their descendants form the substrata of the European population. Then they brought farming and left a huge imprint in Southern Europeans. Then they brought iron and chariots, leaving behind a language family that still exsits today and the culture that existed until Christianity. Of course, they also brought in Christianity, though indirectly through Rome. In the middle ages, they brought in Islam and were eventually expelled. Now, they are doing it again.


33 posted on 05/24/2015 7:01:48 PM PDT by sagar
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To: SeekAndFind

be back. thanx


34 posted on 05/24/2015 7:10:47 PM PDT by thinden
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To: SeekAndFind

ISIS is Zarqawi’s old group Tawhid wal Jihad with a new name; Baghdadi was one of his underlings who went with Zarqawi to Iraq in the late 1990s. Zarqawi’s group’s been around since before 1999 because that is when Zarqawi planned the Millennium Plot in Jordan targeting hotels, including one a hotel frequented by Americans- the attack was to coincide with a bombing attack on Los Angeles’ international airport. Later, in 2002, his group murdered USAID’s Laurence Foley in Jordan. His group absorbed Mullah Krekar’s Ansar group, a group whose leadership included Iraqi intel agents; then after the US invasion they aligned with Saddam’s general al Dhouri c2004 to become AQI/al Qaeda in Iraq, Then later after Jug Ears took office, they took the name ISIS, and since then ISIL.


35 posted on 05/24/2015 7:57:51 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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May I ask — where are you getting all these information from?

Here’s a question — did Saddam Hussein know of Zarqawi and Al Baghdadi and did he approve or support their existence in Iraq?


36 posted on 05/24/2015 8:02:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Jonty30
"If there is truth to this, I believe the rationale behind it was to attract all the Islamic radicals worldwide into a single focal point so they can be stamped out. This would have been an easier option than trying to take them out one hy one as they popped up."

Anyone who believes this, has to also has to believe that 'Fast and Furious' was a great 'gun control' strategy.

37 posted on 05/24/2015 8:30:06 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Don Corleone

The author, Ben Swann, is an avowed Communist who works for Russia Today. Need we say more?


38 posted on 05/24/2015 8:31:20 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer :))
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To: 4rcane

Bush and Obama are both to blame.

One was an idiot and the other one thought he was smarter than the idiot.


39 posted on 05/24/2015 8:31:26 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Crystal Palace East
"The author, Ben Swann, is an avowed Communist who works for Russia Today. Need we say more?"

Doesn't matter. Everything he says is true.

We created and perpetuated this entire mess by invading Iraq. This will turn out to be worse than Vietnam after it's all said and done.

40 posted on 05/24/2015 8:33:23 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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