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When US Troops Left Too Soon
Townhall.com ^ | May 10, 2015 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 05/11/2015 4:42:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ThanhPhero

BJ Clinton acted as though the war never happened (twenty years after it did); it is indefensible. It told a whole generation of veterans, and the loved ones of those who died there, that it had been for nothing; that the communist regime wasn’t so bad after all.

The war in Vietnam created a cynical skepticism towards government by Americans; BJ Clinton cemented that in place.


61 posted on 05/16/2015 1:52:32 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: TomasUSMC
1. That's stupid and you know it. Dropping nukes wouldn't have worked in Vietnam and during the Cold War would have only got us nuked in return. Besides, nukes aren't effective in mountainous, jungled terrain. I was a 5715 secondary, so I know nukes.

2. "Puzzle Palace" doesn't answer squat. Unit, MOS, Duty Station. I've already figured out that if you ever were in the Marine Corps, you barely made it out of boot camp.

Poseurs are a dime a dozen.

62 posted on 05/16/2015 3:20:20 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ThanhPhero

Fascinating site. I guess that “Ong My” means “Mr. American”.


63 posted on 05/16/2015 3:22:53 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: kearnyirish2
I suppose we should go bomb hell out of Viet Nam now. it would do you some good to get revenge on Clinton that way and would probably suit Mr. Obama, too. He doesn't like foreigners who want to be our friends.

I had friends who died in Viet Nam. I also have friends who live there now, Americans and Vietnamese. If you cannot get over your your bitterness against Clinton who really is a third party, I shan't bother you more about it, but just once to say, Viet Nam is the best place in the world for an ego boost for an older American man, especially one who was there in the war.

One quote (2003) from an old soldier who fought the "foreign devils" for 11 years- "The government men came to my village and said our country was being invaded again. I thought it was the Chinese. I did not know different until 1973. Why did the Americans leave? We could not fight them. Why did you leave us with these devils to rule? If the south had won we would all be prosperous now."

After the war

64 posted on 05/16/2015 10:18:36 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Chainmail

A group of adults was having trouble pronouncing my name. I heard the voice of a little girl behind me say something to her brother about Ong My (the American) and the light went on. I said to the adults “Call me Ong My(I don’t have capacity for diacriticals on this keyboard).” That stuck and transferred to the emigre community back home when someone from there turned up here. Now even my grandson calls me that and he is no ways anything but genetic American. It can mean ‘Mr. American,’ ‘the American,’ beautiful grandfather,’ and several other things depending on contest.


65 posted on 05/16/2015 10:26:00 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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You should see those deserted roads now. The bus and truck traffic is incredible. Highway 1, La Rue Sans Joie of the war years is four-laned for maybe 60 miles up from Sai Gon and the work is proceeding north. Already it needs more lanes. More and more people can afford cars which are very expensive because the government taxes engine capacity at steeply rising rates, trying to keep the traffic down while they build out the highway system, but the automobiles and trucks and buses are staying way ahead of the paving and paving is proceeding apace.


66 posted on 05/16/2015 10:44:12 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Chainmail

When you say nukes don’t work in mountainous or jungle terrain....maybe that’s why we nuked cities, right? duh. Although nukes work best on flat terrain, they work better than conventional bombs in any geography. Remember 1 megaton is equal to one million 2000 pounders. You got one million bombs handy? Nope.

Nukes would have worked in Vietnam. ONE on Hanoi and it would have been over. INSTANTLY. DONE. Billions saved. Years not wasted and most importantly 50, 000 Americans would have been saved from death and hundreds of thousands spared serious injury.

And to think the Russians would have risked total annihilation over a small far away country like North Vietnam is a wrong. Not anymore than the Russians would have nuked us over Cuba, something the Russians have long since admitted they were not going to do.

I am a well known Marine, and you calling me a liar is a serious thing. YOU don’t rate squat from this Marine.

Try concentrating your fire on the LeftWingRegresives instead of attacking U.S. Marines.


67 posted on 05/16/2015 10:31:57 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Zero proof you ever were a Marine: MOS? Rank? Duty stations?

The mission wasn’t to eradicate Vietnam; it was to rescue the South Vietnamese from the VC and the NVA. Using nuclear weapons would have only killed a whole lot of innocent people and stained our country for all time.

If we had used them, there is no way that the Soviets would not have used them on us - North Vietnam was their client state. You would have killed several thousand Russians as well.

Other than killing hundreds of thousands in cities, nukes would have little effect on the troops in the field - other than make them fight harder.

If you actually ever were a Marine, there was good reason never to put you in charge of anyone.


68 posted on 05/17/2015 3:21:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: TomasUSMC
"I am a well known Marine"

Really? Couldn't prove it by me. You still can't or won't tell us when you served, what MOS you had, what units, etc. But, no you haven't provided squat and all I've gotten from you is homosexual-oriented threats by private mail.

I have my service history on my personal page - easy, isn't it? If you can't prove you were a Marine, you need to change your name.

69 posted on 05/17/2015 7:45:53 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
Why does someone who traveled to Communist Vietnam, spent money in that regime, want information on Marines? In this new age of infowarfare, that info is valuable to our enemies.

If you can't figure out Puzzle Palace and what unit and mos goes there....your dumber than you let on. Attacking other Marines shows a treasonous trait I will be watching....and a call to folks who work Comsec to check up ON YOU and your travels to Communist Vietnam is COMING SOON.

Semper Fi

70 posted on 05/17/2015 9:10:53 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC
You really are the funniest fake I've run into! Sure, go ahead, report me.. While you're at it, report all the rest of my tour group with Military Historical Tours while you're at it.

And no, Puzzle Palace doesn't tell me a thing other than you're not able to substantiate that you ever were an actual Marine.

You have however, provided limitless amusement - do you actually know what Comsec (communications security) means?

Time to take the USMC out of your handle and just call yourself Tomas, ya fake.

Semper Fi, indeed.

71 posted on 05/17/2015 9:45:31 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Your sad dude. Hope you get better.
Semper Fi

Just try and attack the LeftWingProgressives ...not Marines.


72 posted on 05/17/2015 10:52:50 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

No proof at all that you were ever a Marine. Sad.


73 posted on 05/17/2015 11:15:59 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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