Posted on 05/06/2015 6:06:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Not fair.
Over 50% voted for the bummer knowing he was bad. Over 50% are on the dole. It will take a miracle to pull this out.
Ted Cruz would win at least 40 states, maybe even 42 or 43.
All the other Republican candidates will lose and lose bign
I agree; but I am not going to violate my principles and vote for someone I believe ineligible because it seems that the Constitution doesn't matter anymore.
That it the surest way to make the Constitution useless: treat it like it doesn't matter. Now, I can't control anyone else, but I can control me, and I choose to behave like the Constitution actually does matter.
The old white guys in wigs knew a thing or two and the biggest thing they knew is that direct democracy and direct elections of executives is a disaster.
He is a natural born citizen. He never needed to be naturalized.
This is epic nonsense. Why do you think high end, high paid, serious Republican lawyers never brought it up about Obama. He was eligible because he never had to be naturalized, whether he was born in Hawaii or the dark side of the Moon. He was a citizen by virtue of his mothers’ citizenship.
Two reasons:
First, because the Republican party [like all of our political elite] is dominated by open-borders/new-world-order types (if it wasn't, they would have addressed border security) and the Natural Born Citizen clause is, in fact, a poignant reminder of nationalism. It is therefore in their interest to subvert the NBC requirement — this is why McCain, whose eligibility was also questionable, was pushed opposite Obama. (That way regardless of who won, precedent would be set for eroding the NBC requirement.)
Second, and perhaps most importantly, the confirmation indicates what is either a widespread conspiracy to knowingly install the ineligible, or the widespread apathy and malfeasance/misfeasance that would allow them to unknowingly install the ineligible. — Remember that those in power do not like to be humiliated, to be ridiculed, shown as utterly weak and ineffectual, would likely be worse to them on a personal level than an actual Treason charge. — So, once the deed was done [certification that he was eligible] they had painted themselves into a corner
and, the courts realizing that any scrutiny in the matter would necessitate huge portions of our governmental elite being removed/prosecuted were essentially forced to play along, denying everyone standing to bring a case (those that weren't already perfectly aligned with the NWO/open-borders crowd).
And, dang-it, now I have to ping Nully about a nut-job conspiracy!
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
I stand with Ted.
I think he can do this
Hillary was hiding behind Bill as a centrist until her shamnesty proposal this week let her red slip show. She will have to tack left to clinch the Dem nomination, so the 2004 rules should apply: even more so if Faucahontas runs. The key is to run a real conservative and show how hard left the Dems really are.
Since the Congress, 50 states'AGs, and every court in the land from Muncie Municipal Traffic up to the SCOTUS has been unwilling to even consider the issue, constitutional eligibility has been decided by consensus. 53% of the voters say Barry Soetoro Dunham Obama Jr. (or II) is eligible .... all in favor say "Aye."
OK. So I don't agree. In fact, I have no clue right now as to what an American citizen even may or may not be. Wealthy Chinese moms combine baby delivery with San Francisco shopping and little Wank Ho becomes a US citizen? Illegal aliens Juan and María's little Pepe is born in San Diego, and he is a citizen? Just WTF is this about?
Now people on this very site are telling me that little Pepe and Wank Ho are "Natural Born Citizens?" They tell me "Native Born" = "Natural Born." Our POTUS had the choice upon reaching his majority of choosing Kenyan, UK, Indonesian, or American citizenship. Rubio could have a Cuban Passport if he really wanted one. Jindal could claim Indian citizenship. Ted could claim Canadian, Cuban, or American papers. These strike you as the attributes of "Natural Born Citizens?"
Tell you what. I'll go with what the SCOTUS says on the issue. They have gone well out of their way to dodge the issue every time the appeals reach them. They are the Court of the Constitution. What does the Constitution say about it? Tell us, you black-robèd bumkissers .... that's why we pay you.
So tell me when was Mr. Cruz or Mr. Obama naturalized? When and where did the ceremonies occur and where is the paperwork? Without naturalization ceremonies or paperwork a person who is not a natural born citizen can not become a citizen
Now knock off the nonsense knucklehead!
Absolutely not.
If nothing else, the EC firewalls election fraud to the state in which it is committed - it needs to generate only the fraudulent votes necessary to win the “local” election.
Without the EC, every fraudulent ballot manufactured everywhere contributes to the overall national outcome.
For mathematical proof of the merits of the Electoral College see this article:
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep/math-against-tyranny
I do not.
So tell me when was Mr. Cruz or Mr. Obama naturalized?
Mr. Cruz was naturalized by the circumstances of his birth: see 8 U.S. Code Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization.
You see, the power given to Congress in Art I, Sec 8 over naturalization is unqualified — the Congress could make the rule that anyone who swims the English Channel is a citizen, ow anyone having red hair, or the circumstances of one's birth. The confusion about citizen at birth [via naturalization]
(with Natural Born Citizen) has deliberately been seeded because it undermines the latter — our political elite are open-borders/NWO-types and despise the NBC requirement because it is flagrantly nationalistic.
Also, consider the anchor baby
which has his naturalization via birth and arguably the 14th Amendment — that is the sort of person they want to place in power: because they can call him an American but he has a very low chance of being culturally American and instead likely to be culturally Mexican or South American which have very corrupt political systems and little concept of liberty. In short, they want the US to be culturally accepting of statism and corruption because they have more power and have it more securely in that case — there's a lot of uncomfortable truth in my brochure on The American Caste System.
I get what you’re saying but there’s a lot wrong with it.
For example, that 53% of the people voted does nothing to change the facts in the case — Obama’s Constitutional eligibility is entirely discrete from public opinion.
Also, the idea that “the Constitution means what the Supreme Court says it does” is one of the single most destructive attitudes to take regarding liberty. (Consider that Roe was predicated on a Constitutional right to privacy, but the ACA mandates medical records must be accessible to the government... but by Roe there’s a Constitutional right to privacy — is anyone going to force this issue? Or are we all going to ignore this paradox, trusting that the USSC will do the right thing and strike either Row or ACA down?)
You should put your crazy to better use.
Exactly and why I keep contending that either Marco or Jeb will wind up on the ticket.GOP has to win FLa.If we don't want Jeb we need to back Marco warts and all.An outside pick is Pam Bondi(Fla.Att.gen.) but she lacks name recog. and she's on a path to be our next Governor.She would be a wonderful choice however she's brilliant.
Oh, like what?
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