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Ted Cruz, the presidential candidate who wants to increase the H-1B cap by 500%
Computerworld ^ | March 23, 2015 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 03/24/2015 12:18:36 PM PDT by C19fan

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To: ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie

What do you mean that they are no less applicable. They DO NOT exist.

How can something not in existence be applicable?

And you TOTALLY ignore that they were part of a killer amendment to the comprehensive immigration bill.

And you TOTALLY ignore that Harry Reid promptly killed this. Why did he do that?


161 posted on 03/26/2015 9:14:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: ConservingFreedom; xzins; SoConPubbie; Praxeologue; Sirius Lee; C19fan; 2ndDivisionVet

LOLO

162 posted on 03/26/2015 9:21:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: xzins; SoConPubbie
This amendment was offered over 2 years ago and was killed in the Senate by Harry Reid.

The arguments Cruz made on its behalf are no less applicable now than they were then.

What do you mean that they are no less applicable. They DO NOT exist.

Simply wrong - the amendment no longer exists but the bogus H1Bs-create-jobs argument remains.

163 posted on 03/26/2015 9:25:47 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie

Nothing of it remains. Harry Reid killed it.

Why did he kill it?


164 posted on 03/26/2015 9:27:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins; SoConPubbie
Simply wrong - the amendment no longer exists but the bogus H1Bs-create-jobs argument remains.

Nothing of it remains. Harry Reid killed it.

He didn't kill the bogus H1Bs-create-jobs argument.

Why did he kill it?

There were other parts he didn't like. And *IF* he also didn't like H-1B expansion, then he - like the proverbial stopped clock - was right.

165 posted on 03/26/2015 9:30:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe

No, he killed it because they were killer provisions throughout: (A) through (F) and (2) all have killer provisions that Reid did not want to be limited by.

(A) Advanced degree from a US UNIVERSITY.
(B) Extraordinary abilities: internationally recognized, must continue working only in that area, must be something that will substantially benefit the US.
(C) Professors/Researchers: in institution only and only if they are tenured positions, in research, in an organization that has at least 3 other researchers in that area, and has achieved acclaim in that area.
(D) Executives/Managers: must be in same company in which they are employed overseas.
(E) Skilled workers: must have 2 years training or experience and must be a shortage of qualified workers.
(F) Employment creation: must invest a million dollars and must create at least 10 full time jobs.
(2) Shortage Workers: must not be from an area mentioned above and shortage must be verified by Bureau of Labor


166 posted on 03/26/2015 9:44:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins; ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe

Thanks for carrying on the good fight xzins!


167 posted on 03/26/2015 9:53:08 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins; ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie

Notice how easy it is to destroy a man’s reputation with a sound bite when the facts point clearly in the opposite direction? But getting the facts is harder and takes more effort than just throwing stones based on a baseless accusation.

The left will reach out to anything to destroy Ted Cruz. Unfortunately there are many here who would do the same.

You have set forth the facts of Ted Cruz’s proposal. It was reasonable and intended to benefit the United States rather than move it in the direction of a third world banana republic. That is why Harry Reid killed it.


168 posted on 03/26/2015 10:01:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe; ConservingFreedom; SoConPubbie

I think Conserving Freedom is a Rand Paul supporter. Is that correct CF? You signed on about 9 months ago in the prelude to the midterms.


169 posted on 03/26/2015 10:09:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe
(E) Skilled workers: must have 2 years training or experience and must be a shortage of qualified workers.

No, as I noted before and you ignored, that was a category IN ADDITION TO the "highly-skilled workers" according to your link. (Not that I'd trust a "verification" from the feds anyway.)

170 posted on 03/26/2015 10:24:40 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie

No, (E) and (2) are different categories. A-F = up to 605,000 visas and (2) equals 350,000(?).

Both (E) and (2) are shortage based, but (E) is part of (1). (E) also required 2 years of training or experience.

Do you support any kind of immigration?


171 posted on 03/26/2015 10:28:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins
that was a category IN ADDITION TO the "highly-skilled workers" according to your link. (Not that I'd trust a "verification" from the feds anyway.)

(E) also required 2 years of training or experience.

OK - the point remains that the real cap adds up to almost 1,000,000.

172 posted on 03/26/2015 11:00:30 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

How many did Harry Reid want?

How much immigration do you support?

Who do you support at this point...I’m thinking I remember you as a Rand Paul supporter?


173 posted on 03/26/2015 11:02:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie

“I think Conserving Freedom is a Rand Paul supporter. Is that correct CF?”

No. See the following:

“Ted took a principled states-rights position on pot, leaving RuPaul’s only differentiators as gay marriage and open borders ... not remotely conservative positions.” - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3270913/posts?page=85#85

Another post knocking Paul and supporting Cruz - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3210067/posts?page=34#34

More posts knocking Paul:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3173606/posts?page=2#2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3190572/posts?page=6#6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3267626/posts?page=16#16

Posts supporting Cruz:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3181492/posts?page=3#3
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3256492/posts?page=3#3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3266438/posts?page=28#28
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3266438/posts?page=50#50
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3262590/posts?page=31#31
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3228386/posts?page=4#4
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3264627/posts?page=3#3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3262381/posts?page=9#9


174 posted on 03/26/2015 11:05:33 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Are you a Ted Cruz supporter?


175 posted on 03/26/2015 11:07:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins
How many did Harry Reid want?

No idea.

How much immigration do you support?

I support zero H-1Bs, which are indentured servitude for the sponsoring employer; I support skilled foreigners getting citizenship, so they have a stake in this country's success and can work for whoever they choose.

Who do you support at this point...I’m thinking I remember you as a Rand Paul supporter?

You're thinking wrong - see post #174. At this point I'm still looking for but not finding an America-for-Americans candidate.

176 posted on 03/26/2015 11:09:51 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: xzins
Are you a Ted Cruz supporter?

I was. :(

177 posted on 03/26/2015 11:10:28 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: P-Marlowe
We all claim to be capitalists here, but we all want the government to protect us from competition.

Try to go to Europe or Australia and get a job. No 'Mericans allowed. When they open up we should. Never happen. We are the only idiotic country that allows this to happen.

178 posted on 03/26/2015 11:12:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We usually agree but you are are on the wrong side of this one.


179 posted on 03/26/2015 11:16:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: saleman

Asking for the elimination of H-1B is not a quest for perfection. It is common sense.


180 posted on 03/26/2015 11:17:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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