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California's Next Megadrought Has Already Begun
BI - Slate ^ | 3-22-2015 | Eric Holthaus

Posted on 03/23/2015 10:34:56 AM PDT by blam

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To: marsh2

Oh, in addition, CA, the tribes and environmental groups backed by federal agencies wants to remove the 4 Klamath River hydropower dams which will eliminate any control of the river for anything but “natural flow” for salmon, including storage of water.

Interesting to note that there is almost no snow pack (<20% of normal) in the far north this year. That means no river water this summer because the river water comes from snow melt. It doesn’t rain in the summer at all.


41 posted on 03/23/2015 11:13:59 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

While what you said was true.The state legislature is so heavily Democratic Party I just can’t imagine them doing what needs to be done. As someone posted to me earlier the states water system was designed for 20 million its not twice that. California is an arid-mediterannean climate. And like you said you cant have all those people and the fertile San Joaoquin and Sacramento Valleys. Unless they go into massive de-salinization plants the future is bleak. What I imagine they will do because they are Democrats and not real people...LOL .Is screw Big Agriculture to accomadate the growing population.
Freegards
LEX


42 posted on 03/23/2015 11:16:50 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: blam

I have been keeping up with this and the last 150 years have been an anomaly for California. Most of the time it is dry.
If that is the case and history then what are the options for the populace of that state. There isn’t enough water resources to support them.

So look for land values to eventually fall as well as farmland prices to fall. The production of all those vegetables will have to move somewhere else.


43 posted on 03/23/2015 11:18:00 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Worse than up to 1200 years ago.

So global warming is the supposed cause this time. What caused global warming 1200 years ago, cow farts? Yup, all B.S.

44 posted on 03/23/2015 11:19:36 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: editor-surveyor

No it’s not. The Aquifers are drying up and are not being replenished. California is using 8.3 Billion Gallons of Groundwater a day and the those aquifers cannot ever regain.
Farmers in the Central Valley and others places and have a year maybe two before those resources dry up and it’s gone.

There are few options and Brown and others should have been planning for the water future of California 50 Years ago and didn’t.


45 posted on 03/23/2015 11:23:33 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Everyone was screaming with their hair on fire about a global warming 100 years from now and nobody paid attention to this?

Figures. What could they possibly hope to refill these aquifers with? Surely not ocean water....


46 posted on 03/23/2015 11:28:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

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Well, his own Democrats used to call him Governor NO, back in the ‘70s.

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47 posted on 03/23/2015 11:30:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: blam

I have standing water and cat-tails growing in my yard. I’m okay too.


I would not say that in public if I were you. The EPA will declare your land a protected marsh and confiscate it.


48 posted on 03/23/2015 11:38:11 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Is there anything even heroic that could be done... like shipping trainloads of snow down from the north next winter?


49 posted on 03/23/2015 11:39:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The Final Harvest

Since there will be no water for the agricultural centers of California - there will be no growing season - which means there will be no requirement for illegal workers.

Hmmmmmm ..??


Even more of the illegals will go on welfare. About 1/3 of CA residents are already on the dole. And the rest of you are helping to pay for it. Thanks from the People’s Republic of Kalifornia.


50 posted on 03/23/2015 11:40:39 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom

The drought chart above does not show Mexico, but from the looks of it, Mexico will be spared the worst. Maybe the ag jobs will go south.


51 posted on 03/23/2015 11:43:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: roadcat

Plus, this is WITHOUT farming.


52 posted on 03/23/2015 11:45:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: blam

“Forget it, Jake, it’s Chinatown.”


53 posted on 03/23/2015 11:47:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: roadcat

What caused global warming 1200 years ago, cow farts?

Dinosauer farts.


54 posted on 03/23/2015 11:54:55 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (an icon of resistance within the oppressed patriots, who represent resilience in the face of SSV)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Is there anything even heroic that could be done... like shipping trainloads of snow down from the north next winter?


Most people do not realize how cheap water is and how much it weighs. I saw in another article that Los Angeles is paying $700 per acre foot for water from farmers. I looked it up and one acre foot is about 1000 cubic meters. I cubic meter is 1000 liters and one liter of water has a mass of 1 kilogram so one acre foot weighs around 1000 tons. No way you are going to ship 1000 tons of water a long distance on a train for $700. BTW to compare, a battleship weighs around 50,000 tons or as much as 50 acre feet of water. Even with the drought some farmers are getting about 1 acre-foot of water per acre per year. So a 50 acre plot of land gets water with weight equal to a battleship.


55 posted on 03/23/2015 11:59:14 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom

A typical tank car holds about 220 tons of liquid the density of water. A coal car could be packed with snow at a third of the density of water. 15-18 cars to carry 1000 tons, it could be worse.


56 posted on 03/23/2015 12:08:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: blam

Whew! I was worried for a minute that we might have actually put the delta smelt environment at risk! Glad to see that the people have to suck it up so the smelt can go on unmolested by little things like water storage!


57 posted on 03/23/2015 12:22:12 PM PDT by CSM
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Carlsbad, CA desalination plant will be providing water by the end of this year. The plant capacity is 50 million gallons per day.

The Huntington Beach, CA desalination plant will be providing water by 2018. The plant capacity is also 50 million gallons per day.

Sacramento is full of idiots and California is full of voters who enable such idiots, but there are pockets of sanity.

58 posted on 03/23/2015 12:32:02 PM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: TheDon

Thanks for posting this, good to hear it.


59 posted on 03/23/2015 12:35:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: SMARTY
They’re the reason FOR the ‘draught’..

Simply not true. Only 14% of California water goes to residential use, and that includes lawns. 6% goes to industry and 80% goes to agriculture. You can blame illegal aliens for a lot, but the water shortage is not one of them.

60 posted on 03/23/2015 1:04:21 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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