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Challenge to Teacher Tenure Survives
New York Law Journal ^ | 03.16.15 | Joel Stashenko

Posted on 03/13/2015 11:21:56 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Beagle8U
It’s a problem in any state that has teacher tenure. Teachers unions should be abolished.

How about we abolish people posting from a position of ignorance first? Tenure only ensures due process rights, not a bulletproof position. It protects teachers against administrators who don't like their religion (I experienced that personally), who don't like their politics, who don't like them for any number of reasons which have nothing to do with the quality of their teaching.

21 posted on 03/13/2015 1:55:49 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Having worked in government myself and having seen how hard it is to fire government employees I would respectfully submit that your position, while laudable, has been perverted to the point were due process has become practically ‘guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.’


22 posted on 03/13/2015 6:07:31 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: EinNYC

Teachers unions do nothing but drive up taxes and protect worthless lazy slobs that couldn’t make it in the real world.

Few enter college with the intent of becoming a teacher, they switch to a teaching major as a last resort, just before they flunk out.

Scrape out the SAT/ACT barrel, and what sticks to the bottom become public school teachers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850871/posts


23 posted on 03/14/2015 5:02:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

this is being done incorrectly...

if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em..

here we go...

most tenured teachers are white...

white teachers are automatically racist...

therefore, tenure laws are racist...

THAT may work


24 posted on 03/14/2015 5:06:06 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Beagle8U

You are so mentally lazy that you don’t even want to correct your ignorance. Most of the teachers that I know are very bright individuals. Many have advanced degrees in law and other fields. They found that they liked teaching kids better. I would hardly consider myself or my colleagues “worthless lazy slobs”. Don’t throw stones from glass houses. And cut out your stupid inaccurate insults. You just make yourself look stupid.


25 posted on 03/14/2015 10:06:16 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Beagle8U

Tenure has ensured marginal public education; what other occupation offers such protection? It protects mediocrity, and that is the outcome as well.

Interesting that it is being used to show it is being used to deny blacks an equal education; apparently it is OK to pretend to educate white children...


26 posted on 03/15/2015 4:15:34 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Get rid of unions and the teaching profession might start getting some respect.

Unions operate on the theory that all are equal within a classification. Meet the laughably low minimum standard and you are equal to the best the group has to offer.

Well, even the teachers themselves will admit there are some worthless incompetent slugs within the group.

Yet they whine like a 2 year old when you treat them all the same, just like the union demands. By protecting the lazy slugs all teachers in the union are reduced to that same level.

Good teachers don’t need tenure, or a union. If they want to be judged on individual merit they have to dump the union. Until that happens they are all the turd in the punch bowl.


27 posted on 03/16/2015 2:48:21 AM PDT by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Beagle8U

Well put; apparently they feel entitled to benefits normally reserved for Supreme Court justices and popes...

Here in NJ public school teachers are our new upper middle class (since real jobs left) - working part-time 180 days per year...


28 posted on 03/16/2015 7:30:18 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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