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Refuting The Laws of Physics, Part 2 of 2
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| February 9, 2015
| Mark Baisley
Posted on 02/09/2015 6:23:56 AM PST by Kaslin
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02/09/2015 6:23:56 AM PST
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Kaslin
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02/09/2015 6:29:29 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
To: 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
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posted on
02/09/2015 6:29:38 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
To: Kaslin
I will have to congratulate Mark at tomorrow nights GOP County meeting.
We have a great opportunity to continue the trend set this weekend in Colorado, by installing Liberty minded Conservatives.
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posted on
02/09/2015 6:41:30 AM PST
by
G Larry
(Obama may not be "THE" Antichrist, but he is certainly America's Antichrist.)
To: Kaslin
I showed slides of the lifeless conditions everywhere, with the exception of our home planet. Not surprisingly, there is no self-actualizing taking place on Mars, nor anywhere else as far as can be credibly conjectured."Everywhere"? Is he saying there is no life other than earth in the entire universe? Are we to apply the same standards to his seeming assertion of "settled science" that we do to the global warming alarmists or does he get a pass?
Isn't his statement akin to "We've recorded higher temperatures on twenty thermometers over the last ten years. We can't read the ones further away so we'll just go with what can see."
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posted on
02/09/2015 6:52:44 AM PST
by
raybbr
(Obamacare needs a death panel.)
To: Kaslin
"...After laying out the hostile conditions of Big Bang debris, I showed slides of the lifeless conditions everywhere, with the exception of our home planet. Not surprisingly, there is no self-actualizing taking place on Mars, nor anywhere else as far as can be credibly conjectured..."
I live in a modest 1000 sq ft home with a 2 car garage, all sitting on a 60 x 200 foot lot. One day, I wondered if there was an intruder on my property. I looked inside the card holder of my wallet, and did not see anyone, so I reasonably concluded there was no possibility of anyone else being on my property.
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posted on
02/09/2015 6:56:43 AM PST
by
Rebel_Ace
(My wife told me to update my tag, so I did.)
To: raybbr
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Is he saying there is no life other than earth in the entire universe? --
Yep. Although he makes a technical error by saying life is "outside the probability distribution" (technically, no possible series of random events has zero probability - that we are here is at least evidence, if not proof, that intelligent life is possible), I think his reasoning is correct. The probability of even simple life is so low that calling it "impossible as a random event" is not unreasonable. So many improbable things have to line-up, including a relatively non-hostile environment, that the probability of life anywhere else is close to zero, even considering the known vastness of the universe.
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posted on
02/09/2015 7:00:23 AM PST
by
Cboldt
To: Kaslin
silly title because the laws of physics supports the idea of creation....
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posted on
02/09/2015 7:27:05 AM PST
by
Nifster
To: raybbr; Rebel_Ace
Yes, "Everywhere". Your argument sprouts from the assumption that there is something to be found.
AGW alarmists assert that there is "something there" when the evidence doesn't support that conclusion. Are you also asserting that there's something there with no evidence to support you?
As to R_A's wallet; it's a silly argument. No. Looking in your wallet and assuming wouldn't be the correct analogue...
Looking everywhere that is accessible within your yard and on your property, and then declaring that there's no one there prior to digging up the soil and sawing all of the trees in half, is a more apt comparison..
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
02/09/2015 7:48:46 AM PST
by
Kaslin
(He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
To: Rebel_Ace; raybbr
The “everywhere” he uses means everywhere we have looked and/or sent probes. We have not found life anywhere else except on Earth.
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posted on
02/09/2015 7:49:05 AM PST
by
kosciusko51
(Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
To: Hugh the Scot
AGW alarmists assert that there is "something there" when the evidence doesn't support that conclusion. Are you also asserting that there's something there with no evidence to support you?No. It's about evidence. At what point do you declare "I've looked at all the evidence". Claiming that there "nothing there" because there is no evidence he can see beyond our solar system derives the finding that there is nothing to be found in the entire Universe is childish at best.
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02/09/2015 7:51:48 AM PST
by
raybbr
(Obamacare needs a death panel.)
To: kosciusko51
But considering the immensity of the universe we’ve not even scratched the surface.
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:05:06 AM PST
by
aquila48
isn’t this more appropriate for the religion thread under ecumenical?
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:06:38 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Kaslin
To: aquila48
Yes, but what we do know about the universe from our solar system and other extraterrestrial pursuits is that the universe is a hostile environment for life.
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:14:21 AM PST
by
kosciusko51
(Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
To: raybbr
Is he saying there is no life other than earth in the entire universe? Can you show us where there is any other?
Until actual evidence of such become available, the assumption that there is life elsewhere is simply wishcasting.
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:16:00 AM PST
by
Yashcheritsiy
(It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
To: Yashcheritsiy
Actually, I don't see how life on other planets would detract from his overall argument.
When God created light, he didn't create the sun, or the stars. He created light. All light, everywhere. All suns, all stars... the very possibility of light. When He created the land, He created all land, all planets, everywhere.
Perhaps Earth is just one of the spots of fertile ground among the weeds and stones of the cosmos where life took hold.
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:35:16 AM PST
by
caligatrux
(Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
To: Cboldt
"...So many improbable things have to line-up, including a relatively non-hostile environment, that the probability of life anywhere else is close to zero, even considering the known vastness of the universe..."
I believe that to be a rather arrogant position, as if you know all the conditions prevalent in our Galaxy, or all the known Galaxies observed.
Just consider "simple" water. What does it take to make it? Two Hydrogen Atoms and one Oxygen Atom you might say. Well, where did the Oxygen come from, if the Universe started off as a smear of mostly Hydrogen and some Helium?
A fairly "ridiculous" chain of nuclear reactions have to take place to produce the Oxygen atoms from the raw material of Hydrogen. How is the matter organized from the simple Hydrogen atom to the more complex Oxygen atom? Does someone have to supervise the order of the reactions to get Oxygen? Nope. Just GRAVITY and TIME, left to "run unattended" will result in Hydrogen clumps forming stars, which through the process of repeated birth, death and recycling, will produce the Oxygen atoms needed to form simple water.
My point? There exist many examples of self assembly and spontaneous order in the natural world. I cannot in all honesty look at a Hubble Deep Field image with countless Galaxies in view, each with Billions of Stars, and even begin to think I know everything about the conditions everywhere in the Universe.
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posted on
02/09/2015 8:53:02 AM PST
by
Rebel_Ace
(My wife told me to update my tag, so I did.)
To: Kaslin
“We are symmetrical.”
Some are beautiful, some are ugly. Go figure.
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