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Mormon Church: We Vow to Fight for LGBT Rights, but Don't Trample Our Religious Freedom
Christian Post ^ | 01/28/2015 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 01/28/2015 6:39:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: tbw2; SeekAndFind; ArtDodger; surroundedbyblue; C19fan; mulligan; Gamecock; jsanders2001; ...
Ten years ago, the Mormon church was supporting Proposition 8 in California and traditional marriage. Now they are almost in favor of it. I think they got infiltrated quickly by the liberal-secular cabal.

Well that wasn't even 10 yrs ago...was just over six (2008)...and to show you how quickly things turned around - a knee-jerk reaction to the crit the church unfairly rec'd -- they actually were doing this...supporting the protection of "sexual orientation" in housing & employment...back in 2009 already!

Just seemed to be noticed more by regional -- vs. national media...

Here's what I mean:
* http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2383779/posts
* Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws

The current Mormon campaign is simply a reemphasis and possible expansion.

Now that the state of Utah has said it's not enforcing prosecution vs. polygamists, the Mormon leaders...who have LONG provided hidden cover to polygamists well after 1890...realize that if they're going to quietly sanction one alternative "sexual orientation"...polygamy...then all is "fair" in lust & war across the board!

21 posted on 01/28/2015 9:04:59 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: SeekAndFind

Mormonism is a business/cult, they shape themselves to fit what serves the organization, they are not Christian, they are their own religion with their own bible written by Joseph Smith in 1830, “The Book of Mormon.

Whatever changes they make are for solid marketing reasons, remember that high profile politician Mitt Romney, was a Mormon religious leader, as was his father, and most of his line since they first arrived about 1842 in America, to personally serve Joseph Smith, having been converted in England.

To quote Mitt Romney wayyyyy back in 1994, from a letter he wrote.
“”For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent’s [Ted Kennedy] record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.””

“”We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and the bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.””


22 posted on 01/28/2015 9:08:29 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Bible is clear in its stance on Homosexuality (sodomy) and Homosexual marriage. Throughout the Bible Homosexual behavior and practice is forbidden as a sin against God Himself (Lev 18:22, Lev 20:13, 1 Cor 6:9-10) and breaks the everlasting covenant that God established with man in Genesis 2 & 9, where God told man to leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and then to be fruitful and multiply on the earth. This condemnation extends all the way to the New Testament where Homosexual practice is expressly forbidden.

Jesus said in Luke 17 that the last days before his return would be like the days of Lot (Sodom), where homosexuality and pederasty were practiced. Like Sodom, where men broke the everlasting covenant with God by legislating homosexuality and pederasty, the prophet Isaiah predicted 2500 years ago that the entire world would be like this in the last days and would bring judgment on the world...

Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

23 posted on 01/28/2015 9:17:35 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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Basic biology, and the most rudamentary knowledge of social mechanisms, makes unambiguously clear that when one man has three wives, two other men will not be able to have a wife.

Those two are “surplus males” and history shows they are far more likely to become practicing homosexuals.

As they like to say on National Palisimian Radio (NPR),
“Let's do the math.”
1. One ‘Mormon Polyg Marrige” = 1 male, 3 females, 6 children(3 boys, 3 girls).
2. 1. above means the 3 girls will be “Mormon Polig Married” to one boy.

CONCLUSION: A ‘Mormon Polig Marrige’ is a production line for males unable to find a wife = production line for queers.

Not surprising the queers found they really might like Mormons after all.

Worst Conclusion: Mormon ruling theologians knelt before the FedGov as they had twice before when their faith was found by Americans to be unacceptable. This time, however,, FedGov(but not Americans in general) was under(pun intended) queers like Obama. The combination of avoiding “anti-homophobia threats” by FedGov and seeing a chance to bring back polygamy, the Mormon leaders suddenly decided to reverse their religions position on queers.

It is, sadly but accurately true, that Joseph Smith said he would found a faith that would out do that founded by Mohammad. Smith knew that polygamous marriages produced more believers AND more cannon fodder(and more queers).

Obama, and Queer Nation, used illegal FedGov power to coerce the Mormon Church into accepting queers, a position which Judeo-Christians believe G*d described as “an abomination”.

Sadly, the Obanation and Queer Nation have succeeded in forcing into Mormon doctrine that which G*d held to be “abominable”.

Regardless of ones position on the Mormon Church, to allow FedGov to so abuse the Mormons is un-American, as well as by allowing FedGov to violate Mormon freedom of religion, and failure to preserve and protect the Constitution.

24 posted on 01/28/2015 10:00:32 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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Mormonism is a business/cult, they shape themselves to fit what serves the organization, they are not Christian, they are their own religion with their own bible written by Joseph Smith in 1830, “The Book of Mormon. Whatever changes they make are for solid marketing reasons...

Let me reiterate how important of a realization this is.

Just about ALL (if not all) of the Lds "general authorities" are either businessmen or retired businessmen.

How does this then impact Lds Church decisions in interacting with the broader world?

Well, they think (most often) in sheer public relations & marketing terms -- as businessmen are prone to do!

The bottom line then becomes: "How is the broader world perceiving us? What is our image, and how can we alter that?"

Their recent movie about six Mormon individuals was simply a similar marketing ploy.

25 posted on 01/28/2015 10:41:54 AM PST by Colofornian (Irony: lds reference selves as 'latterday'...yet toss out the very bible verses citing 'lastdays')
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The Mormon Church is continuing to impose upon its people that if you rent a room or a backyard cottage, you must be open to renting it to...
...homosexuals...
...transgenders...
...polygamists...
...fill-in-the-blank re: anything to be regarded as an "sexual orientation"...

Why, you might as well be the local motel owner who knowingly rents out rooms during the day to the local prostitute who uses them for anything but sleep!

26 posted on 01/28/2015 11:04:21 AM PST by Colofornian (Irony: lds reference selves as 'latterday'...yet toss out the very bible verses citing 'lastdays')
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Thread just posted:
No grand bargain with the sexual revolutionaries [Biblical Studies Prof: LDS culturally naive]
27 posted on 01/28/2015 8:39:14 PM PST by Colofornian
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