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"Our objective should be “good enough” governance, which means ensuring that a state is capable of keeping order within its own boundaries, at least enough order to contain transnational terrorists. The provision of this order may sometimes be arbitrary and brutal. Maintaining order in some countries might require an American military whose primary mission would be to degrade transnational terrorist entities and perhaps intervene to maintain a balance of power among local strongmen."

Did Kasner just say we should have left Saddam Hussein alone?

1 posted on 01/15/2015 7:18:15 AM PST by DJ Taylor
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Yes, and I agree we should have.

It comes down to politics. You can’t win a war in 4 years nor can you count on reelection or your predecessor continuing what you started. Just look at the mess of Iraq. Bush may have started and had some success but any ground gained was botched with the change of leadership. Same goes for Afghanistan. Our troops died or nothing.... NOTHING. Iraq is worse off and Afghanistan will likely fall into the same trap as soon as our remaining forces withdraw. Islamic terror is worse than it was before all of this mess started, mainly because Western nations fail to attack the hornets hive.

IF we want to end Islamic terror, we need to go back to counter value warfare and start hitting the heart of the islamic state, both Saudi and Iran. It doesn’t matter how many good muslims there are. There were plenty of good peace loving germans and Japanese yet we bombed them to hell. Japan got firebombed and nuked with entire civilian populations wiped off the earth. Now we play wackamole, constantly on the defensive, while Islamic terror groups use both our success and failure as recruitment tools. We will not win until we destroy the hive, Mecca.


42 posted on 01/15/2015 8:26:40 AM PST by drunknsage
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Why we aren't winning wars

Because the political class refuses to go medieval on our enemies.

5.56mm

52 posted on 01/15/2015 8:59:06 AM PST by M Kehoe
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What it takes to keep he Muzzies in their sandbox:

732 AD—Battle of Tours—Charles “The Hammer” Martel

1100’s to 1300’s: Nine Crusades to the Holy Land

1571-Battle of Lepanto (at sea)

1673-the Breaking of the Siege of Vienna by Jan Sobieski,Poland

Each of these events was marked by the wholesale slaughter of Muslims.

The last one kept them quiet until the time of Yassir Arafat, 300 years later.

Islam is incompatible with Western civilization, and we are now engaged in a one winner battle of ideologies, whether we like it or not, and whether we believe it or not.

One will prevail.

Imagine a world without Islam. It is easy if you try.


54 posted on 01/15/2015 9:01:11 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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