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Free Republic’s Bitter Kasserine Pass DEFEAT with John Boehner : WHY ARE WE HAPPY TO KEEP LOSING ?
Patton@Bastogne ^ | 2015-01-06 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 01/06/2015 4:43:10 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Vendome

” Unfortunately, we are the makers. The producers. We can’t rally or protest for everything. In fact, we can only afford one or two serious rallies a year. The rest of the time, we have to work.”

That’s right. And we don’t have a sympathetic MSM or UN backing.


121 posted on 01/06/2015 7:07:03 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: nomad
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Clearly, time for a little 'spalining, as Ricky Ricardo would say ...


Protests locations were suggested at highway overpasses, court houses, busy intersections.

The rallies' primary goal was for LOCAL congressmen to hear or see LOCAL protests in their districts for the DEMAND to fire John Boehner.

Guaranteed, if a Congressman hears about (or sees) 3-4 protests in his district on the SAME day ... targeting his vote decision ... it GETS his attention.

Period.

Especially if it's rainy, cold, freezing.

The message gets through.

These tactics are "quite effective"

Finally the photograph from said rallies are sent to the congressman's office, e-mailed by the 50+ folks who attended the rallies ...

as well as the local news media.

Trust me, that gets the Congressman's attention.

The other benefit is that the "public" also sees what's going on ... the rallies raise their awareness as well ...

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122 posted on 01/06/2015 7:07:54 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: dforest

....”Nobody has any gumption anymore”.....

Even our local politics is corrupt beyond measure because the public has ceased to care....and they are in that place because they see the hand writing on the wall and refuse to participate with time or money.

For me it’s like leaving a bad marriage with politics.....better to be single with a dry morsel than in a house that abuses you! Vacations don’t work because it all simply repeats itself.

We need an overhall of our entire governance and until that’s in play I’m not playing anymore...and I don’t see our governance is going to change...rather become even more corrupt and take us all right into the NWO...as Michele Obama said..”Even if it means dragging us kicking and screaming”.


123 posted on 01/06/2015 7:09:40 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
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Well, as this thread discussed, there's clearly a problem with your local Tea Party's leadership.

One has to ask, why aren't they involved ?

Usually it involves fake "leaders" personally threatened with new ideas ...

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124 posted on 01/06/2015 7:10:43 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Pelham

Yes it’s amazing how far Cali has swung to the left.
1966: Reagan 58/42
2014: Moonbeam 60/40


125 posted on 01/06/2015 7:11:11 PM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

....”These tactics are “quite effective”....

At what?..... Being seen and heard then the politicians continue as they were with a handshake and a nod and we swallow it hook line and sinker.

No thank you...they’ve shown us clearly they don’t want to listen...and they aren’t or we would not be seeing things playing out as they are time and again.

Nope I’m not buying this anymore.


126 posted on 01/06/2015 7:12:20 PM PST by caww
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To: Impy

Kasserine Pass was a half-assed effort, with most of the blame belonging to the incompetence of the American commander, General Fredendall. There was good reason for him to be relieved by George Patton.


127 posted on 01/06/2015 7:15:35 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: Big Red Badger

“Murrieta was another Victory here in SoCal.”

Not familiar with that. Can you give us the highlights? Thanks.


128 posted on 01/06/2015 7:15:46 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: DJ MacWoW
What got Reagan elected?

A bunch of millionaires who decided to back him gave him his start in politics, allowed him to run for Governor and surprise Gov. Brown. He had the talent and was smart enough, after a decade of tutelage under the GE President's wing, but he needed the backing.

With inflation, it would take a billionaire now. I'd love to see Ted Cruz find one. Even so, the deck is so stacked in the GOP that I doubt he could get the nomination like Reagan did. Back in RR's day, there were no open primaries and a huge chunk of delegates were selected at the convention. The GOPe has learned from their mistakes, and knows how to stack the deck now.

The GOP is led by progressives who agree with amnesty, socialized medicine and big government. A few rallies won't change them. They hate us. They don't hate Democrats they hate us. Stop trying to make them like you, it only makes you seem like a needy stalker. Find a new mate (party) and get on with your lives.

129 posted on 01/06/2015 7:16:13 PM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator? An initial transition may be needed.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Tea Party isn’t what it’s cracked up to be IMO.....so i no longer support those in our nearby areas at all. They are too interested in taking themselves and their co-hurts to the stages for self grandiosa bows.....and the same goes for those who got into local office here....they’re just as idiotic as those already holding office, in fact make things worse by being seen as the fools they are with no expereince in how to be diplomatic nor voicing themselves in such a way as to be heard.

We simply do not have those with strong enough personalities to be effective....or they’re in it for their own means.


130 posted on 01/06/2015 7:16:30 PM PST by caww
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To: vetvetdoug

I agree, but there is a huge, vicious, and vocal group of Sarah haters on this forum. Ready and willing to pounce on her at every opportunity.


131 posted on 01/06/2015 7:17:08 PM PST by sport
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To: dowcaet
Republicans are good at disappointing.

I recently found out Trey Gowdy is pro-amnesty. Pukes all.

132 posted on 01/06/2015 7:20:06 PM PST by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Democrat_media

That only worked because the first troops sent to Tiananmen Square were locals who knew the protestors and they wouldn’t fire on them.

The Chinese leadership learned from that and the next time that they suppressed a demonstration they used troops from another region of China and those troops did shoot.


133 posted on 01/06/2015 7:21:26 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: sergeantdave

The Murietta mutiny:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Murrieta&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=murrieta+mutiny


134 posted on 01/06/2015 7:23:51 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: caww; dforest

This is a good thread, sheeple finally getting upset.

This is notes for sheeple in general.

Perhaps a few are looking in the right direction. Rest just upset and still clueless.

I like how caww said “pull wool over eyes” above - I conjured up a sheep being given an “atomic” wedgy and its own wool underwear being pulled over its eyes. Hey, cut that out ! Baaaaaa !

Of course, the sheep had to buy the wool underwear which came from China, etc., etc.

Just a few thoughts:

The elites have high-level strategic planning. They work in a coordinated fashion, instead of as a flock of grumbling sheeple. The elites do multi-generational planning, for example, great-grandpa’s tax-exempt foundation is under the auspices of this generation and working on their agendas, but they don’t have to fund 1 penny of it and no tax is paid on the investment returns from the capital, part of which is reinvested and part of which funds current operations of the multi-generational strategic “agendas”. For example, say great grandpa had a vision of controlling, looting, etc., in Africa, and this generation continues. Those tax exempt organizations are the tip of the spear in the attack, they open the door for this generation’s companies to go in and reap profits and control.

Repubs and Dems both serve the agendas of those people - that’s why things like Agenda 21, climate change, etc., get voted in by politicians all over the country in every state, city and town.

You must identify and know (study) your enemy, their strategies, tactics, strengths, weaknesses, etc.

If you want to really blow the lid off the whole thing you need comprehensive investigation and publishing regarding what is actually going on - quite a lot of it. When the sheeple find out the truth they get angry.

Never mind about a Dem President in 2016, that is the optimal situation to HELP the sheeple, combined with a Republican Congress. We should not care about party at all, and just keep Congress and the White House never under control of the same party.

This is the only thing that slows down the progress of the elites in completing their war against the sheeple of America.

The sheeple have got to have informal organizations to make any headway at all.

Then they need to learn how to cause politicians to lose elections. Then they’ll have a tool to use. They need to be able to ruin political careers. Through smart, legal ways (as opposed to the immoral, illegal ways the powers that be operate). It’s quite fun when Repub candidates are run up the flagpole for conservatives, and on FR we bash the name, and then the establishment sees that the conservative base is a no-go, so the candidate slinks quietly back to their nest. In every county in the nation our friendly informal sheeple orgs need to work on being able to get the public at large (a majority of the sheeple) to give up on, detest and dump a politician.

The sheeple need to learn how to propagandize other sheeple.

The sheeple organizations need to gain influence and “take back” their local areas.

These “SO’s” should get to the point of them deeming who will be elected and who will not. At some point, the elites are going to have to be the enemy whose face the sheeple put up on the wall as a dartboard target. Why are prices so high ? The elites. Why can’t you sell your house ? Etc.

The sheeple then need to learn how to infiltrate other organizations at a high level and understand what to do with that ability. They need to learn how to deal with their own organizations being infiltrated.

If you’re a sheeple and you want to take action, and if you are a member of any organization at all - you should be working for the sheeple cause. How ? Depends on whether the org is pro-sheeple or anti-sheeple, of course, first. Are you in the PTA ? Scouts ? A Union ? A birdwatching club ? Think McFly ! Always look to link up, plan, coordinate, etc., with other activist sheeple.

And certainly stop worrying about electing Republicans in particular; any party (literally) is fine as long as they are under control of a sheeple org. Get it ? Once you get enough minions (across all parties) you can start getting things done (since the minions find political ways of justifying votes “against” their party when their masters so desire). Up until then you’re just a sheeple.


135 posted on 01/06/2015 7:26:19 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: dforest
This afternoon I watched a great movie....”When Lions Roar”. It was done very well and featured Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin's dialog throughout the beginning and end of WW11...and the actors were just as good as the dialog.

Very well done and kept me riveted throughout the entire feature.... I needed that to remind me where the world had come from at a time when great world leaders set aside their differences to take on a common enemy AND WIN!...and this without loosing sight of their own countries sovereignty.

We no longer have leaders as such because they're all on the NWO gravy train coming to a head and the seats they want to hold at that table. Which is why..IMO...Republicans are running the very same candidates as before.....they're all in it and trying to position themselves, or help someone else to do so, for the payoff they will get by doing so.

Poor Putin is trying very hard to stop them at his borders without much success..they want him out of the way for sure....he cannot win against the tide against him now....but he'll keep trying as the man won't go down without a fight, he'll never surrender his country...nor will any who might take his place....and they'll all be dealing with China as well before this “thing” plays out...and not in a favorable way!

I cannot see how our politics will change without an outright coup of the people and they don't have the will to pull that off because they like having their head in the sand....freedom costs...we do not have a society willing to pay that price of sacrifice as our men once were made of.

The younger generation is fully on board and indoctrinated to be “Citizens of the World”...we've lost them to the forces that control our educational system...and the social media.

136 posted on 01/06/2015 7:32:52 PM PST by caww
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To: dowcaet

I listened to Rush these last two days, and listened to lots of complaints by him against the GOPe, but I didn’t hear him say that Republicans should get rid of Boehner. It seemed to be what he was alluding to, but I didn’t hear him outright say it. If he did, I missed it (I am on the phone sometimes.) I would have like to hear from him that “Boehner has to go” and that Republicans that vote for him, after the Cromnibus and his work for amnesty should not be considered conservative. Levin has been much stronger lately against the Republicans than Rush. They all need to go off the reservation completely, cut the cord.


137 posted on 01/06/2015 7:38:17 PM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator? An initial transition may be needed.)
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To: dfwgator

You are absolutely right. It’s time. Hell, it’s past time.


138 posted on 01/06/2015 7:42:16 PM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator? An initial transition may be needed.)
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To: sergeantdave

Recently the bussing of illegals to a holding station just North of San Diego.
It was leaked that force would be used against the protesters and here on FR it was stated the the Agents here Refused to enforce this order.
This was early July , happened as the Bundy Ranch was cooling down.
It seemed to me that a threatened drone strike at Bundy Ranch had a common thread


139 posted on 01/06/2015 7:42:22 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; All

The biggest mistake is thinking that conventional, “working within the system” politics is going to have any effect at all.

The system is broken. It will not be fixed.

The Republican Party is broken. It will not be recaptured.

Rallies only matter when the politicians and the media listen to them. They will not, so rally all you like - nothing will come of it.

Until we start applying some serious fourth generation warfare, nothing will change.


140 posted on 01/06/2015 7:45:32 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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