Posted on 12/23/2014 9:39:35 AM PST by wagglebee
What gave you your first clue?
If you read the entire article, the unstated fart in the elevator is that Democrats were the ones to jump on eugenics as a "scientific" justification for segregation, miscegenation, colored drinking fountains and bathrooms.
I'll admit to the fantasy of using democrat voter roles as a proscription list. I also think using them all as the first colonists to Omicron Persei 8 should at least be considered.
>>You have to understand. We’re talking about Democrats! The left side of the Bell Curve, people who eagerly voted for and still rabidly support a Chicago politician.
“Social Darwinism” was a right wing racist oligarch combination of Darwinism and Malthusianism that dumped straight into the NAZI racial policies, period. And don’t come at me with that “Nazis were socialists” claptrap. Nazism was a global movement that found a home in conservative minds in every country on the planet, current David Irving revisionists not withstanding. It’s an ugly truth we have to confront if we are to consider ourselves modern humans. Republicans were anti-racist and pro working class in the days of Lincoln and on up through Harding, then they got hijacked by the oligarchy and became their Wall St. lackeys. Blacks voted 90% for Republican candidates until “Bully” Roosevelt. The truths to our history are a mouse click away. What, you’re too lazy?
Himmler was a chicken farmer, it's where he derived most of his warped racial theories.
You can delude yourself however you want, but the fact remains that eugenics was adopted by both parties.
Eugenic sterilization was imposed throughout the country. The Nazis modeled many of their laws after California and California was pretty solidly Republican until the 1970s. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. was a Republican.
If I wanted to click on racist eugenic history, I would go no further that Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger, W.E.B. DuBoise....
That's a Democrat president, the founder of Planned Parenthood and one of the founders of the NAACP.
Because...?
Oh, yeah. Because the truth is so difficult to argue against.
LOL!!!
Himmler’s career was one of the strangest I’ve ever read.
When Jefferson spoke of watering trees, he didn't specify party membership.
Yes, but you were the one who originally mentioned Democrats rather than liberals.
During the early 20th century a great many Democrats were conservative and with the exception of their support of the New Deal this remained true until the 1970s.
EVERY president from Teddy Roosevelt through Hoover supported eugenics (Calvin Coolidge, who is typically considered conservative, was a huge supporter). Yet, there is no evidence that FDR ever believed in it.
Winston Churchill is greatly admired by conservatives, but he was a big proponent of eugenics.
Moving forward, the only dissenter besides Rehnquist in Roe v Wade and Doe v Dalton was Byron White, a Democrat appointed by JFK. Many will argue that Nixon was more conservative than any post-WWII Republican president besides Reagan, yet Nixon was delighted by Roe. Even more will claim Goldwater as a conservative icon and he was a huge abortion supporter.
All I am saying is that we can't pretend that eugenics didn't have widespread support through American history. And, it still does today. A great many current politicians who many consider conservative will claim to be pro-life, but resist actually doing anything to end abortion. I have seem more than a few FReepers exposed as rabid eugenicists.
When Jefferson spoke of watering trees, he didn't specify party membership.
Let's look at Mr. Jefferson's quote that gets thrown around entirely too often:
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure.
Plenty of people are all to willing to call for the heads of those they consider tyrants while forgetting that their heads will also come off.
>>Somebody is out of the closet.
Yah, Republican clostet, as in anti-monarchist, anti-oligarch. You ever read our founding documents or the pamphlets of rebublican (small R) rabble rousers. You even know what “republicanism” means? You know anything at all about republicanism in history? You know anything about the political standpoint of the Puritans that founded this nation and why they were hounded out of Britain and other monarchies in the 1600’s?? You ever hear of a republican named John Brown?
>>If I wanted to click on racist eugenic history, I would go no further that Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger, W.E.B. DuBoise....
Why don’t you try to tell me about the GOP taking the lead in eradicating racism in the US. You think MLK was a commie like our friend J. Edgar Hoover, you know the guy who thought there was no such thing as the “mafia”. Even if MLK was a card carrying member of the CPUSA, we handed him the issue on a silver platter because the GOP had been brainwashed against its own founding roots.
>>That’s a Democrat president, the founder of Planned Parenthood and one of the founders of the NAACP.
Yep and the Daughters of the American Revolution, Republicans every dang one of them, refused to let blacks into that organization until the late 60’s, because why, they were Lincoln Republicans? Don’t make me laugh. Because they were racist, period. Try to get this straight, Republicans were originally anti-racist and anti-oligarch. Somehow we were engineered away from that notion of Christian equality. Then, starting in the mid 50’s, we got dragged kicking and screaming into a world where racism is now a dirty word and we still stupidly rubber stamp Wall St. and their banking scams.
Smarter. Faster.
>don’t come at me with that “Nazis were socialists” claptrap.
>>Because...?
>>Oh, yeah. Because the truth is so difficult to argue against.
That argument is pure sophistry based upon the usage of the term “socialist”. Have you read any history of the period whatsoever? You are aware that the first occupants of Dachau and other concentration camps were socialists and leftists of every type? You are aware of this, right? I mean this is actual, documented history. The first order of business for Hitler was to rid Germany of socialist thought, period. Later he attacked the Jews and sundry others, but he was a rabid anti-communist from start to finish.
Then we have the interesting example of Benito Mussolini who was an out and out communist at the beginning of his career. His newspaper, Avanti!, was out and out communist. Didn’t seem to stop him from morphing into a rabid right winger who had his Black Shirts beat up and kill anyone who espoused center, left and marxist ideas.
You “Hitler was a socialist” Houdini’s try to assuage your guilt over the actualities of right wing politics as practiced in that era, but that specious and trite argument doesn’t wash with anyone who can access the facts of the matter simply by clicking their mouse.
Read about Hitler vs. Gregor Strasser. Since when did the term “conservative” mean you couldn’t learn to think outside your own box?
Please don't warn them first.
Your reputation as “Grand Inquisitor” depends on letting idiots say idiotic things because they haven't been warned of the consequences in advance.
While I realize there are some true bigots in conservative circles, I strongly suspect that a number of the people you have snagged over the years are long-standing liberal trolls who come on this site to discredit conservatives by making us look like bigots.
I won't use the name, but I found it very interesting that one of the people who spouts bigotry that is just barely within the realm of tolerable conservative views started spouting vile stuff on an unrelated thread about women and free access to — ahem — “questionable” pictures. One of your colleagues called him on it and he ran back into his hole quickly, perhaps to avoid being exposed.
“Outing” people as bigots sometimes requires an out-of-the-box approach to see what their views are on **OTHER** subjects. Closet liberals tend not to be good at hiding all their core convictions, even if they're trolls acting like “redneck haters” to discredit the conservative views they claim to support.
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