Posted on 12/16/2014 5:14:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
” I am in full support of Cruz. What Conservatives need to know is if somehow Ted Cruz wins the nomination, then I believe the evil GOPe will go all out to sabotage his run.”
Of course they will. But Americans have seen their betrayal this past week, and they are mad as hell. They will ignore Boehner & McConnell this time.
Do you mean to say that you expect a lot of GOP moderates?
That's kinda what I expect. And as for "conservatives" dynamic in the primaries, I think it's predictable. For example: Rick Santorum is as upstanding and fine a Christian as they come so he is conservative in that department, but when it comes to government, Rick voted FOR a raise in the minimum wage every time it came up (six times, I think). It was typical of his political thinking. He correctly despised Planned Parenthood and advocated axing it -- but instead of keeping government out of where it had zero place and letting taxpayers -- trusting to the good morality of his fellow Americans -- to keep the money to use as they please, he wanted to use at least part of taxes funding it to support government adoption programs! He also stated very clearly that he sees government's role as including Christian responsibilities such as charity.
That may be "conservative" by a contemporary moral definition, but it is plain and simple the liberal use of government. The true conservative yearns for representatives who believe in Judeo-Christian morality as the clear foundation of our laws, combined with the conservative use of government. As in, using as little of it as possible.
My point is that between moderates and good moral "conservatives" like Santorum who advocate for the liberal (as in, plentiful) use of government -- in 2016 the Republican party will nominate a presidential candidate who embraces the liberal use of government, and Americans will need a third party limited government candidate who advocates for conservatism.
Even if that candidate Perot'd out, it would help limited government conservatism because whichever president won, the leftist Democrat or the leftist Republican, would be in office with a very clear majority of Americans having rejected him at the ballot box. It would make him weak, as it made Clinton weak. And it would weaken the president in either party. Conservatism can only gain one way or another, even in third party splits, when leftists are rejected at the ballot box.
That's what I think, anyway!
Quote: the same voters who stayed home in 2008 and 2012 will stay home in 2016, and Hillary Clinton is the next president.
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“So he is saying that the conservatives who stayed at home in 2008 and 2012 are to blame for the presidency of Barack Obama?”
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He was trying to make a point that many have said before him; 4 million voters stayed home in 2012. Had they turned out, and voted for Mittens, this would have been enough to outrun the voter fraud and we would have had a different President.
I think the strategy of voting in a Senator is played out. We need a Govenor; someone that has run something. (not chubby I like the Cowboys checker either)
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