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Texas Ebola Patient's Possible Contacts Now Reach 100
ABC ^ | 10/02/14

Posted on 10/02/2014 8:16:57 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Alter Kaker

THIS outbreak came from a single bite from a bat.

However ebola circulates through various animal populations without killing them.

Rodents, pigs, bats, dogs and more.

Pubmed is full of examples of these animals being used in lab experiments.

This one is particularly relevant:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ebola+virus+antibody+prevalence+in+dogs+and+human+risk.-a0131127452


81 posted on 10/02/2014 9:39:54 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Alter Kaker

“Although dogs can be asymptomatically infected, they may excrete infectious viral particles in urine, feces, and saliva for a short period before virus clearance, as observed experimentally in other animals. Given the frequency of contact between humans and domestic dogs, canine Ebola infection must be considered as a potential risk factor for human infection and virus spread. Human infection could occur through licking, biting, or grooming. Asymptomatically infected dogs could be a potential source of human Ebola outbreaks and of virus spread during human outbreaks, which could explain some epidemiologically unrelated human cases.”

From the paper I linked to in my previous post.


82 posted on 10/02/2014 9:41:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Mouton

Good God. When is the “Amateur hOur” going to end in DC?

Stop ALL flights to and from infected countries in Africa. Quarantine the apartment complex and the 100+150 people. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Remember the episode of 24 when they shot folks breaking quarantine? That is the protocol.

If this case proliferates to an outbreak everyone who has said there was nothing to fear should be jailed immediately as Enemies of the State.


83 posted on 10/02/2014 9:43:23 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: Alter Kaker

You do not understand “mortality rate”.

The flu is well under 1%, ebola is over 55%. HUGE difference .


84 posted on 10/02/2014 9:44:02 AM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench
You do not understand “mortality rate”. The flu is well under 1%, ebola is over 55%. HUGE difference .

I do understand what a mortality rate is. And nobody knows what ebola's mortality rate is in the United States - at the moment, it's hovering at exactly 0%. It's certainly nowhere near 55%. Mortality rates in any event are just one piece of the puzzle - because influenza is so incredibly infectious it manages to kill far more people. In general, diseases with the highest mortality rates generally pose less of a risk to the public at large because they burn out quickly.

85 posted on 10/02/2014 9:51:54 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Black Agnes
THIS outbreak came from a single bite from a bat.

Nope, not proven. Bats were the vector elsewhere in Africa, but there's no evidence of them causing the first case in Guinea.

86 posted on 10/02/2014 9:53:31 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Mortality rate for the Zaire strain of Ebola is not zero anywhere in the world. Learn what statistics are, you are using lies and half truths/


87 posted on 10/02/2014 9:56:21 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Alter Kaker

And let us not forget that viruses like to recombine/reassort with other viruses and mix the DNA up.


88 posted on 10/02/2014 9:58:44 AM PDT by Heartlander2
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To: Alter Kaker

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/health/ebola-patient-zero/

One of the African newspapers interviewed the remaining (alive) villagers and one of them remembered the child having an animal bite.

But it’s certainly endemic there in various wildlife pools.


89 posted on 10/02/2014 10:00:14 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: wrench
Mortality rate for the Zaire strain of Ebola is not zero anywhere in the world. Learn what statistics are, you are using lies and half truths/

Huh? Actually the mortality rate for Ebola Zaire in Liberia and Sierra Leone is zero, since that's not the strain we're dealing with in the current outbreak.

90 posted on 10/02/2014 10:00:55 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Dogs cannot catch ebola ....

Yes, they can. CONFIRMED: Dogs can carry Ebola

Mock people all you want, but don't spread falsities.
91 posted on 10/02/2014 10:00:55 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Girlene

If it’s on Reddit, it must be true.


92 posted on 10/02/2014 10:01:27 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GonzoII

See post 91. Yes, they can.


93 posted on 10/02/2014 10:02:28 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Chgogal

OUR SOLDIERS ARE TRAINED TO FIGHT HUMAN ENEMIES, NO LETAL VIRUS.. By SENDING 3,000 SOLDIER TO CONFRONT CERTAIN DEATH BY LETAL VIRUS WITHOUT PROPER PROTECTION OBAMA IS ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF OUR SOLDIERS AND THEIR FAMILY IF THEY RETURN TO U.S. INFESTED BY THE VIRUS.

From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne

Nov 21, 2012 | Jane Huston | Research & Policy – See more at:

http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112#sthash.srRHtwa1.dpuf

When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.

Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species. Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection.

In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease. Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.

While the study provided evidence that transmission of Ebola between species is possible, researchers still cannot say for certain how that transmission actually occurred. There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.

Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long.What do these findings mean? First and foremost, Ebola is not suddenly an airborne disease.

Doctor Boards Atlanta Flight In HazMat Suit To Protest “Lying CDC”

Zero Hedge ^ | 10/2/14 | Tyler Durden

“If they’re not lying, they are grossly incompetent,” said Dr. Gil Mobley, a microbiologist and emergency trauma physician from Springfield, Mo. as he checked in and cleared Atlanta airport security wearing a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a hooded white jumpsuit emblazoned on the back with the words, “CDC is lying!” As The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports, Mobley says the CDC is “sugar-coating” the risk of the virus spreading in the United States.


94 posted on 10/02/2014 10:03:47 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Alter Kaker

It was on pubmed, maybe they’re a gossip site too!


95 posted on 10/02/2014 10:07:11 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Alter Kaker
It's a link to this: Ebola virus antibody prevalence in dogs and human risk.

Again, mock all you want, but stop spreading lies.
96 posted on 10/02/2014 10:09:59 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Black Agnes
One of the African newspapers interviewed the remaining (alive) villagers and one of them remembered the child having an animal bite.

I haven't seen that, but even if that is the case, what kind of animal? Fruit bats don't typically bite human beings. Even if fruit bats are the only host, was the virus transmitted directly (by a bite, feces, etc) or through an intermediate animal host? Not sure we'll ever know with certainty.

97 posted on 10/02/2014 10:10:12 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Alter Kaker
Keep believing that. Would you sit next to him on a flight?

Or share a cab with him and help him get to the hospital.

98 posted on 10/02/2014 10:12:48 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Black Agnes
It was on pubmed, maybe they’re a gossip site too!

I read the original study. A couple of points: (1) genetic studies show that the disease has jumped from animals to humans only once in the current outbreak despite the presence of vast numbers of dogs in West African cities and (2) there has never been an observed incidence of an active ebola infection in a dog. The study cited found ebola-related antibodies in dogs in France and in African communities that had never seen a case of ebola. So there's not evidence that dogs are either contracting ebola or, if somehow they are, that they're capable of passing it to humans.

99 posted on 10/02/2014 10:13:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Health workers are used to dealing with plenty of diseases far more infectious than Ebola.

Right, that's why he was sent home for the Hospital on the 26th, AFTER he informed the HC Workers he had just recently returned from Africa...

See that way he could spread Ebola thru out Dallas/Ft. Worth so all the Hospitals could implement their Level 4 Containment procedures. /s

100 posted on 10/02/2014 10:14:32 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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