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Republicans Shouldn’t Pander to Hispanic Voters
Townhall.com ^ | September 22, 2014 | Star Parker

Posted on 09/22/2014 4:20:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: zeestephen
No Republican presidential candidate has EVER received more than 40% of the Hispanic vote. Also, recent immigrants from non-Hispanic countries are moving further and further to the Left. Bob Dole got a majority of the Asian vote in 1996. In 2012, after massive immigration, 73% of Asians voted for Obama.

Could one not conclude, therefore, that most legal immigrants tend to support government assistance and that pandering to illegal aliens of their ethnic group is not a factor?

21 posted on 09/22/2014 10:36:54 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: ansel12; All
These latino or hispanic surveys are biased on the subject of immigration. The National Latino Survey, the Univision survey and others, though they have consistently shown that immigration is a minor issue, fifth or sixth on the list, skew their questions to support various forms of amnesty. Others are pure race baiting, such as "do you think that Republicans care about latinos?"

Some studies, however, show a large disparity between foreign and U.S. born latinos, which, when combined with the low priority given the immigration issue, indicate that this is not a wedge issue. For example from May 2013:

In assessing the support or opposition for such laws, 32.28 percent of U.S.-born Latinos responded that they “favor” or “strongly favor” tougher immigration laws, compared to 9.54 percent of foreign-born Latinos. By comparison, 41.72 percent of U.S.-born Latinos “oppose” or “strongly oppose” such laws, while 71.61 percent of foreign-born Latinos shared the attitude.

This should be the topic of its own thread. Karl Rove is being lead around by the nose.

22 posted on 09/22/2014 11:35:38 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

What’s your point, Hispanics vote democrat, and are liberal on immigration, we already know that.


23 posted on 09/22/2014 11:42:32 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
My point is that a tough stance on illegal immigration is not going to lose many votes, if properly framed. Subject to further research, second generation latinos don't seem to care about the issue and, to the extent that they do, are close to the views of average Americans. Of course, the Democrats will try to race bait the issue, but if you present it correctly, Republicans should prevail. Someone with latino blood should lead the charge, since they are harder to demonize.

My observation about Mestizos stems from Latin American racism, not ours. Latin American whites think they are exporting their trash. You don't see them walking across the border. As a result, the mixed race illegals and those with recent legal status, don't fully trust white latinos, particularly if they speak with a Cuban accent. That goes to who should be delivering the message. I don't know yet who to nominate for that task.

In any event, Republicans should not be falling over themselves to offer a path to citizenship for illegals. Their current stance results from intellectual laziness in accepting Democrat propaganda spun other over five decades.

24 posted on 09/22/2014 12:12:13 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

I’m against all immigration, it is the only way to save what little is left of the nation.


25 posted on 09/22/2014 12:13:35 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Given that immigrants, these days, vote left, and that the Left is destroying this nation, yes, I agree with you. However, that position is not politically viable. Making sure immigrants play by the rules, however, is a winning issue. That goes for the likely twenty millions illegals already here, so resolving that goes a long way to addressing your concerns. Not that even that is going to happen, given our muddle-headed RINOs.


26 posted on 09/22/2014 12:27:26 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

When have immigrants not voted left since mass immigration was first allowed in the 1850s?

Why is ending immigration not viable, why should Americans face a future of a billion people smothering each other?


27 posted on 09/22/2014 12:29:58 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Your Pew data encouraged me to dig further. I am encouraged that opposing any form of amnesty is a position that the Republicans can take and still win an increased share of the latino vote, since other issues are more important. Advocating an end to all immigration would be political suicide. Do you have data that would indicate otherwise?


28 posted on 09/22/2014 12:43:21 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

When the republicans win the Hispanic vote, then give us a call.


29 posted on 09/22/2014 12:48:10 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Kennard

Or the immigrant vote for that matter, be sure and let us know when that happens.


30 posted on 09/22/2014 12:49:09 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
When the republicans win the Hispanic vote, then give us a call.

They may win it one day, but you won't like what they do to win it.

31 posted on 09/22/2014 12:49:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: ansel12

Ha! That’s not going to happen, of course. But they may pick up a few points if they pull their heads out of the sand..


32 posted on 09/22/2014 12:51:20 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: zeestephen
Bob Dole got a majority of the Asian vote in 1996.

That was only because Perot partially split the Left vote. A repeat is unlikely.

33 posted on 09/22/2014 12:59:38 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

That’s certainly what I conclude.

Just before reading your comment, I was reading through an international poll done by CNBC.

Question:

“Who has the primary responsibility for health care - Government? - Employers? - Individuals?”

72% of the people from nations with “emerging economies” said “Government.”


34 posted on 09/22/2014 1:58:01 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

On bread and butter issues, immigrants will vote Left. I suspect, however, that if asked whether immigrants should abide by immigration rules, at least 72% of them will say yes. While you were reading that, I noticed that a poll of Mexicans revealed that 27% think it is okay to break U.S. immigration laws.


35 posted on 09/22/2014 2:14:07 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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