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Hundreds Of Vets Receive Pot Free Of Charge At Special Event
CBS Denver ^ | September 20, 2014 6:01 PM

Posted on 09/21/2014 1:39:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: JCG

That’s probably the worst rationale of all-that because one evil is tolerated another one should be as well. What does that lead to? In reality, I don’t think we should be ruining lives over weed. Any form of substance abuse has the potential to do that well enough all by itself. I do not think we should encourage marijuana use/abuse as a mainstream recreational activity however. There is nothing but bad that will come of it. I definitely don’t think tax payers should be on the hook to subsidize the poor decisions of millions of Americans but we all know GD good and well that they will be. They are already allowing drug addicts to purchase weed with EBT cards in Colorado. That right there is reason enough for anyone who considers themself to be a conservative to say no and should illustrate to the rest of the country exactly where this is all leading. No. Not only no, but hell no.


81 posted on 09/21/2014 9:24:46 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
oh and you’re actually suggesting that it’s safe to drive after smoking a bowl of ultra potent weed huh?

Assuming this post is intended for me, I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. It's not safe to drive while impaired regardless. I'm only saying that impairment by marijuana is far less dangerous than impairment by alcohol.

If we must outlaw marijuana, why shouldn't we outlaw a much more dangerous drug -- alcohol?

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82 posted on 09/21/2014 9:42:46 PM PDT by JCG (Anti-medical cannabis = ignorance, hysteria, or worse ... [Haven't tried it but intend to.])
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To: JCG
If we must outlaw marijuana, why shouldn't we outlaw a much more dangerous drug -- alcohol?

False dillema. Alcohol is not more dangerous than marijuana. Alcohol abuse is more widespread because alcohol use is legal and tolerated. Alcohol causes more problems than marijuana because it's used much more frequently than marijuana. Once the weed genie is let out of the bottle, we'll see how benign it really is or isn't. But I think any rational person would conclude that as marijuana use increases, we will see an increase in deleterious effects related to its use on both the individual user and on society as a whole.

American culture is already in decline. I see no reason to hasten that decline by submitting to this evil. Again, I don't think lives should be ruined over it but I don't think we should remove the legal prohibition against its use. we should not uncork the genie's bottle if you will because genies have a way of giving you more than you bargained for.

83 posted on 09/21/2014 10:21:54 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
Alcohol is not more dangerous than marijuana.

I already showed the opposite is true. According to the CDC there were 18,000 deaths last year due to excessive alcohol consumption. There were zero deaths attributable to excessive use of marijuana.

The "weed genie" has been out of the bottle for decades. California has had medical marijuana since 1993. 22 other states now have it. Two states have totaly legalized it. Decriminalization is happening everywhere. The use of this weed in the US is enormous and getting bigger.

The only things standing in the way are ignorance and fear.

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84 posted on 09/22/2014 2:44:45 AM PDT by JCG (Anti-medical cannabis = ignorance, hysteria, or worse ... [Haven't tried it but intend to.])
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To: JCG
I already showed the opposite is true.

You didn't show any such thing as I clearly and irrefutably explained why your conclusion was false.

California has had medical marijuana since 1993

And California is a disaster and we aren't talking about medical marijuana, we have talking about recreational marijuana throughout this entire dialectic.

Two states have totaly legalized it.

first of all, those states are in violation of federal law as are the states that have legalized it for medical use. Secondly, as use has increased , so has the incidence of vehicle fatalities involving drugged drivers.

The use of this weed in the US is enormous and getting bigger.

Yes, and the country is doing so much better because of the increase in drug addiction. So are ALL THOSE DRUG ADDICTS.

The only things standing in the way are ignorance and fear.

I prefer to call it rational and sober minded people.

85 posted on 09/22/2014 2:59:02 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
I already showed the opposite is true. (That alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana.)

You didn't show any such thing as I clearly and irrefutably explained why your conclusion was false.

You actually believe something that will kill you is less dangerous than something that won't?

You didn't "clearly and irrefutably" explain anything. You offered no facts, no studies, no statements by academics or scientists. The only thing you did was spew your opinion -- about the evil weed genie.

I suppose I should take your opinion over the scientific facts published by the CDC?

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86 posted on 09/22/2014 4:43:31 AM PDT by JCG (Anti-medical cannabis = ignorance, hysteria, or worse ... [Haven't tried it but intend to.])
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To: Texan5

Sounds like you’ve got it made. Good for you.


87 posted on 09/22/2014 6:12:12 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I don’t believe any of the veterans are being forced to take it, do you? From what the article states, many vets use it medicinally.


88 posted on 09/22/2014 6:56:48 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: GeronL

Of course not-I’m sure popcorn was never intended for the table-the microwave kind I like comes in a nice bag to carry around without spilling...


89 posted on 09/22/2014 10:20:57 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up yoiur boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: cloudmountain

Well, if/when everything goes to hell, survival is an easier thing where people don’t depend on a city, or miss the conveniences-that makes it even better.


90 posted on 09/22/2014 10:27:18 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up yoiur boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: RC one
as use has increased , so has the incidence of vehicle fatalities involving drugged drivers.

From your link: "A separate study — also based on FARS data — found that in states where medical marijuana was approved, traffic fatalities decrease by as much as 11 percent during the first year after legalization. [...] Those authors theorized pot, for some, becomes a substitute for alcohol. They cited a recent, 13-percent drop in drunk-driving deaths in states where medical marijuana is legal."

Yes, and the country is doing so much better because of the increase in drug addiction.

What "increase in drug addiction"?

91 posted on 09/22/2014 10:29:43 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But no dope smokers??


92 posted on 09/22/2014 7:20:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RC one

Rational and sober minded enough to fall into the same basic fallacy as those who think they can stop criminal shootings by banning guns.


93 posted on 09/22/2014 7:22:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Would you want your doctor to be a drug addict? How about the nurse handing you a cup of pills? How about the lawyer defending you in a court of law? Your veterinarian? How about the company commander leading your son into battle? How about the soldiers themselves fighting against a vicious and determined enemy of the country? or the guy that's dating your daughter? or the guy driving the school bus with your children on it?

Drug addicts excel at rationalizing and justifying their behavior. I'm not buying it. I never will. I'm sure we will never stop it but that doesn't mean we need to condone it.

94 posted on 09/22/2014 10:33:41 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

First a strawman, then an insinuating smear?

If this is the best you can do, hang it up. Truth doesn’t care about fads.


95 posted on 09/22/2014 10:35:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RC one

bump


96 posted on 09/22/2014 10:40:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You didn’t answer the question.


97 posted on 09/22/2014 10:42:08 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
first of all, those states[CO and WA] are in violation of federal law as are the states that have legalized it for medical use.

Do you support the 10th Amendment prerogative of states to carry out those policies? Or would you have fedgov close them down?

98 posted on 09/22/2014 11:34:58 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
So long as the federal government is able to pick one man's pocket to put food on another man's table, the tenth amendment has limited meaning to me especially when discussing policies that are sure to result in increased dependence on the federal government, like legalizing drug addiction for example.

And I will repeat my original question since nobody has answered it yet:

Would you want your doctor to be a drug addict? How about the nurse handing you a cup of pills? How about the lawyer defending you in a court of law? Your veterinarian? How about the company commander leading your son into battle? How about the soldiers themselves fighting against a vicious and determined enemy of the country? or the guy that's dating your daughter? or the guy driving the school bus with your children on it?

99 posted on 09/23/2014 12:04:29 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
Would you want your doctor to be a drug addict? How about the nurse handing you a cup of pills? How about the lawyer defending you in a court of law? Your veterinarian? How about the company commander leading your son into battle? How about the soldiers themselves fighting against a vicious and determined enemy of the country? or the guy that's dating your daughter? or the guy driving the school bus with your children on it?

No to all - nor alcoholics, but that's not a sufficient argument for banning that drug.

100 posted on 09/23/2014 12:07:11 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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