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Bluegrass Poll: Gaining momentum, McConnell holds 4-point advantage over Grimes
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | August 30, 2014 | Sam Youngman

Posted on 08/31/2014 10:50:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

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To: Political Junkie Too
What will you do when McConnell eventually leaves you? What are your principles if you choose a man with no principles as your representative?

That's in the future.

McConnell is just one of 100. But his continuation in office contributes to Republican fortunes, even if he himself is worthless.

Think of the possible outcomes:

Remember, the primary is over. It's too late to turn back the clock and keep Bevin out of the dog ring!

21 posted on 09/01/2014 12:56:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Republican Wildcat

There is no reason in hell I’m voting FOR a tyrant who declared war upon me and my principles and vowed to crush us wherever he found us.

I’m writing in a Conservative and praying McConnell loses.

We’re better off with Grimes in that seat than McConnell, at least we will not have to be continually looking over our shoulder wondering when our so-called leader is going to stab us in the back again and betray us to the enemy behind the scenes.

Anyone remember what Mitch did for Thad Cochran just a little while ago?


22 posted on 09/01/2014 12:58:18 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: elhombrelibre
Absolutely destroying liberal republicans and making sure they never, ever have a chance to get elected will fix the republican party, though.

Because people won't vote for your liberal republicans anymore.

The GOP-E won a lot of primaries.... let's see how they do in the general election without the votes of conservatives that they attacked.

/johnny

23 posted on 09/01/2014 12:59:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cynwoody
McConnell has been instrumental in providing critical cloture votes to advance the liberal agenda.

No liberal, especially a republican liberal should be rewarded with votes.

A 4 point lead is very weak for a sitting incumbent.

It's starting to smell like a loss for McConnell.

I hope that liberal does lose. He doesn't do anything to advance a conservative agenda, and does everything to advance Harry Reid's agenda.

/johnny

24 posted on 09/01/2014 1:02:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: INVAR
A GOP Ruling Class Senate takeover is not a reason to vote for McConnell either.

Going in, you don't know at this time how the 2015 Senate will shape up. Could be Democrat hold, narrow Republican victory, or surprise GOP wave.

If you vote for Grimes or third party or stay home, you are voting for Democrat hold. For Obama's agenda for America. And, remember, Obama is a traitor!

Therefore, your best bet is to hold your nose and vote for McConnell. If it turns out to be a wave, McConnell can be sidelined in due course. But if Republicans stay home, there won't be a wave, and the Won will do his best to cement his "legacy".

25 posted on 09/01/2014 1:06:43 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
McConnell is just one of 100.

No, he's not. He's potentially the Majority Leader.

Harry Reid stays on as Majority Leader, Senator "Half his Age" Grimes caucusing with the D's. Nothing happens in the Senate that could possibly embarrass the Won nor the members with a D after their name.

I guarantee to you that the same will happen with McConnell at the helm. McConnell won't do anything to embarrass Democrats, either.

McConnell replaces Reid. The Senate moves once again, albeit substandardly, due to McConnell's congenital RINO nature.

The first thing McConnell will do is restore minority power in the Senate, handing effective control back to Harry Reid, who knows how to ruthlessly use power. McConnell will behave exactly like Boehner in the House, timid and easily cowered by Democrat huffing and puffing, but being the bully to his own in his own schoolyard.

The Tea Party takes over the Senate. McConnell caucuses Republican but is replaced as Majority Leader. The stage is set for 2016.

Not going to happen. See Mississippi for proof.

If this is going to be a wave year in the Senate, then take McConnell out now. We have the seats to give. Grimes will not be reelected in 2020 in red Kentucky.

-PJ

26 posted on 09/01/2014 1:07:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
No liberal, especially a republican liberal should be rewarded with votes.

That's s wrong analysis of the situation.

The objective at this point, the primary being history, is to retake the Senate. Voting for Grimes or for a turd party candidate or not voting helps Grimes and Reid and Obama.

The time to deal with McConnell is January — elect enough Tea Party senators to keep the gavel out of McConnell's hands.

27 posted on 09/01/2014 1:14:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

if there is no such thing as right and wrong, then why take a side at all?


28 posted on 09/01/2014 1:14:44 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cynwoody
Your objective is to take the senate for your liberal republicans.

That's not my objective at all.

My objective is to politically destroy all liberal republicans and see they never get elected again.

Now is the time to destroy a liberal republican.

If republicans were conservative, perhaps what you say might make some sense, but since republicans are overwhelmingly liberal, the liberal republicans must be politically destroyed.

/johnny

29 posted on 09/01/2014 1:20:07 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cynwoody
The time to deal with McConnell is January — elect enough Tea Party senators to keep the gavel out of McConnell's hands.

Are there enough still in the running?

Are there enough already in the Senate to make a serious bloc?

Look what McConnell did to Cruz. There are what, maybe three or four more standing with Cruz?

There is no way that enough Republican Senators will form a bloc to oust McConnell from the leadership. The only way to oust him is at home.

-PJ

30 posted on 09/01/2014 1:20:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cynwoody
Go sell you OLD and WORN OUT FEAR-MONGERING TO THE RINOs and the GULLIBLE !
The conservatives are having NONE OF IT !
It's time to CLEAN OUR OWN HOUSE !

"ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" McConnell is going to LOSE !

31 posted on 09/01/2014 1:21:38 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: cynwoody

Those intimidation scare-tactics don’t work on me. I will never again “hold my nose”. That is the reason why we are where we are today; with a Ruling Class UniParty Oligarchy in Washington.

I’m writing in a Conservative, period. Neither Grimes or McConnell deserve, nor will get my sacred vote (if it even matters anymore anyway).


32 posted on 09/01/2014 1:24:20 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Republican Wildcat
well if there’s no need for principle then why do we need to remove Harry Reid, or to stop Obama’s agenda?

There is a place for principle.

But it doesn't belong in the voting booth if it leads to self-destructive voting. The voting booth is a place to cast a vote coldly calculated to advance a principled agenda as best as possible under the circumstances. It is not a place to throw a principled temper tantrum that leaves you feeling better about yourself but is really just pissing in the wind.

33 posted on 09/01/2014 1:31:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: JRandomFreeper
If republicans were conservative, perhaps what you say might make some sense, but since republicans are overwhelmingly liberal, the liberal republicans must be politically destroyed.

The effect of which is to empower the Democrats and securely entrench the Welfare State and turn the US into North Argentina with an underclass so large that it can't be outvoted.

All because JRF wanted to do the right thing in the voting booth!

34 posted on 09/01/2014 1:40:16 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

The Founding Fathers would be ashamed of you, sir. Lack of principles is why we’re in the mess we’re in today.


35 posted on 09/01/2014 1:49:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The Founding Fathers didn't depend on the voting booth nor on majority rule, did they? At least not until it was time to draw up Articles of Confederation and the Constitution.

But that was whole other time, in which force of arms overcame the Rule of Law for the greater good.

36 posted on 09/01/2014 2:00:59 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
The Founding Fathers didn't depend on the voting booth nor on majority rule, did they?

They did, but at the time that was the British Parliament.

The problem was a Parliament that became increasingly intrusive and punitive towards the colonists, especially after depending on those colonists during the French and Indian War, and then taxing them heavily to pay off their war debt.

Kind of like what's happening right now. So why send someone back who has already proven to be punitive towards those he depends upon? He's just going to side with the others who think a bigger government is needed to pay off their accumulated debts.

-PJ

37 posted on 09/01/2014 2:18:13 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: elhombrelibre

...”Empowering the Democrat party isn’t the answer to fixing the Republican party. Common sense is prevailing.”...

It is hard to imagine the people of KY voting for someone who is against coal and who is an avid Obama supporter. I don’t believe her Daddy’s money can buy that for her.


38 posted on 09/01/2014 2:30:11 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: cynwoody

It would be interesting to know, but probably impossible to find out just how many of these “principled” patriots actually live in and vote in Kentucky. Not enough to effect the outcome of the Senate race I’m betting.


39 posted on 09/01/2014 2:42:20 AM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

People are sick and tired of Congress for its ineptitude, its hypocrisy and its criminal activities. Yet we continue to elect the same perverts, liars and thieves.

Whose fault is it that we have such a Congress? Look in the mirror.


40 posted on 09/01/2014 3:20:50 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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