What You Can’t See on the UN’s Maps of Gaza

You Tube ^ | 25/8/14 | idfnadesk

[Yosemitest]

You're more than welcome to back up your statements with FACTS, rather than opinions, ~ and link your sources.
If I can do it, so can you.
Mbr< And after all, we ALL know about opinions.

[Yosemitest]

You're more than welcome to back up your statements with FACTS, rather than opinions, ~ and link your sources.
If I can do it, so can you.

And after all, we ALL know about opinions.

[editor-surveyor]

Israel’s right to exist is the prerogative of Yehova, and no one else.

It is the Rock of Offence to all who seek to come between Israel and Yehova’s will.
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[Yosemitest]

... Or His Great Day of WRATH !

[logi_cal869]

I presume you’re ranting about someone else calling you a liberal, as I certainly did not. If someone else did in the thread, I missed it and you’re right: There is no ‘ah-ha’ moment to prove history that’s already written. It’s just not as dramatic to generations of stupid people and their offspring (I’m referring to at least 2 distinct groups there...none of them here at FR).

The problem, as you elaborate, is the ‘emotional manipulation’ or, as I likened, ‘historical revision’...and, of course, the UN.

[Bryanw92]

>>You’re more than welcome to back up your statements with FACTS, rather than opinions, ~ and link your sources.

This is the internet. I’m “more than welcome” to do whatever I please. You do not get to decide. Get a grip, dude. Its just a dumb video!

[Bryanw92]

>>Israel’s right to exist is the prerogative of Yehova, and no one else.

>>It is the Rock of Offence to all who seek to come between Israel and Yehova’s will.

Since the days of Abraham, the STATE of Israel has not existed for more time that it has existed. The NATION of Israel is the Jewish people.

It is interesting that you would use the term “Rock of offense” from the bible since that term refers to Jesus Christ and how he is a rock of offense to those who stick to Jewish law instead of entering into the new covenant. God’s will is for all nations to come to accept Jesus as Lord.

[Yosemitest]

FACTS are only “DUMB” when LYING MUSLIMS can NOT TOLERATE the TRUTH!

[editor-surveyor]

>> “It is interesting that you would use the term “Rock of offense” from the bible since that term refers to Jesus Christ and how he is a rock of offense to those who stick to Jewish law instead of entering into the new covenant.” <<

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That statement is a total defiance of God's word!

The renewed covenant is a renewal of the old covenant with the effective sacrifice of Yeshua’s blood, and is still based on Torah, as Yeshua assured us in Matthew 5.

If he has not written Torah on your heart, you are not in him!

1John 2:

[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Those that deny his commandments but claim to be in him make him a liar!

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[Bryanw92]

>>If he has not written Torah on your heart, you are not in him!

>>1John 2:

You should read ALL of 1 John to really understand what it means.

[editor-surveyor]

I post all of 1John at least three or four times a week.

Nobody reads it, they just howl like their toe has been stomped on.

It means what it says, no interpretation needed.
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[Yosemitest]

Let's shed a little "LIGHT" on these SO-CALLED "PALESTINIANS" . Do you remember their origin?
If not, then read 4,000 PALESTINIANS EVACUATE TRIPOLI ON GREEK VESSELS by ALAN COWELL, published December 21, 1983.

So ...

What IS Palestine ?

Where did the term "Syria Palestina" come from, and what did it refer to ?

Who was "Hajj Amin al Husseini " and WHY is he important to this issue ?

Who is "Nathan Weinstock" (Weinstock, N. 1979. Zionism: False Messiah) ?
Also read Levin, K. 2005. The Oslo syndrome: Delusions of a people under siege. Hanover, NH: Smith and Kraus. (p.288)
Why is the "Black September in Jordan 1970-1971" key to understanding these people that no country wants ?

WHO ARE the Palestinians ?

What is the “Mandate for Palestine” ?
1920 - Original territory assigned to the Jewish National Home


1922 - Final territory assigned to the Jewish National Home


Jewish Palestine


Map: The Recommendation to Partition Palestine

Why has Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia REFUSED and KICKED OUT the SO-CALLED "PALESTINIAN" people ?

[Bryanw92]

>>Let’s shed a little “LIGHT” on these SO-CALLED “PALESTINIANS” . Do you remember their origin?

LOL. I really don’t give a crap! There are no good guys in that part of the world.

[Yosemitest]

Also read "Economic background" of the "1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine" to find out WHEN and WHERE Arabs SOLD their land to the Jews.

Haim Arlosoroff (sitting, center) at a meeting with Arab leaders at the King David Hotel, Jerusalem, 1933.
Also pictured are Chaim Weizmann (to Arlosoroff's right), Moshe Shertok (Sharett) (standing, right) and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (standing, to Shertok's right).

[Bryanw92]

None of that matters. In my first post in this thread, I said that Israel has a right to exist because it currently exists. 3000 years of history does not trump that basic right.

The land I’m sitting on right now has belonged to England, Spain, France, the CSA, the Seminole indians, and the Timuquan indians. None of them can lay claim to it anymore because it is now part of the USA.

Israel’s “historic claims” are meaningless compared to the fact that they are there now and no one has the right to move them, destroy them, or take their land by treaty or contract. But, if they allow their land to be taken, then they no longer have a right to it.

[Yosemitest]

"Israel’s “historic claims” are meaningless
compared to the fact that
they are there now
and no one has the right to move them, destroy them, or take their land by treaty or contract.
But, if THEY ALLOW their land to be taken,
then they NO LONGER have a right to it."

It sounds like you support the terrorists effort to take Israel's land by force.
I remind you of comment #13.

But I remember this:

" The time is come,
the day draweth near:
let NOT the buyer rejoice,
NOR the seller mourn:
for WRATH is upon ALL the multitude thereof.

For the seller shall NOT RETURN to that which is sold,
although they were yet alive:
for the vision is touching the WHOLE multitude thereof,
which shall NOT RETURN;
NEITHER shall ANY strengthen himself in the INIQUITY of his life.

They have BLOWN the trumpet,
even to make ALL ready;
BUT NONE GOETH TO THE BATTLE:
FOR MY WRATH IS UPON ALL THE MULTITUDE THEREOF. "

[Bryanw92]

>>It sounds like you support the terrorists effort to take Israel’s land by force.

No, I don’t. But, in the history of humanity, land taken by force must be taken back by force. So, what I mean is that they have every right to their land. But, if they do lose it, they can’t expect it to be given back through lawsuits or UN action. So, they need to defend it.

Likewise, the muzzies DO NOT have a right to that land because they already lost it. But, in the history of man, taking land by force is generally recognized as legal after the fighting ends.

[Yosemitest]

Thanks for making your position clear.
Mostly, I agree with that.

[skinkinthegrass]

Really; the land belongs to the Israeli; The Pali-Abrabs, gave-up any of their claims to the land/possessions, after the
Wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and Attrition Periods of 1983-2007. They fought in those wars & lost all of them,too.
Btw; there no such, thing as a Palestinian..only an Pali-Arab/Trans-Jordanian.
even the King of Jordan, Doesn't want them..all are troublemakers.

[Bryanw92]

>>Really; the land belongs to the Israeli; The Pali-Abrabs, gave-up any of their claims to the land/possessions, after the Wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and Attrition Periods of 1983-2007. They fought in those wars & lost all of them,too.

Yes....that is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying throughout this whole thread! They own the land because they are the nation sitting on it right now. ALL previous claims are immaterial because, throughout history, land taken and occupied becomes the property of the occupier until someone else takes it.