Posted on 08/06/2014 12:40:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
EU , Soros agenda
I don’t know about Buchanan but Ron Paul has been a non-interventionist for a long time on many different situations. Even if you don’t agree with Paul’s non-interventionism, I don’t see how a case can be made that Paul is a Putin apologist.
That is exactly what they did too. It is also what Obam is doing as we speak.
No, but he qualifies as an “useful idiot,” in the Russian’s eyes.
No media concern for Benghazi American victims, Marine in mexican jail...
Comparing Putin and Russia to Sauron and Mordor is a good analogy.
I can understand Buchanan and Paul cautioning us not to rush to fight another war but they miss the fact Russia is already at war and we are Russia’s target.
Their defense of Russia as the victim and Ukraine as the aggressor is delusional. I don’t take either of them to be stupid though so they have no honor in knowingly lying about the facts of just what is going on.
Paul has always said liberty is the most important value but he is outspokenly against anyone else’s liberty such as the Ukrainians. How do they imagine we will remain free and prosperous when the rest of he world is overrun by the Russians and Jihdists?
“but he is outspokenly against anyone else’s liberty such as the Ukrainians.”
My posting history clearly shows I’m no Paulastinean, but he has said that we shouldn’t be INVOLVED in Ukraine.
He has not spoken out against anyone’s liberty.
This kind of hyperbolic BS is exactly why we are, where we are today.
If (God forbid), Russia takes (or re-takes as the case may be ) Ukraine, does anyone think they’re going to stop at that?
Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, etc. are all there for the taking. We’re practically going to go back to the map of the cold war.
BTW, I wonder how Buchanan felt working under Reagan as his communications director, who does not think like him in terms of foreign policy...
I’m certain he couldn’t be the one who helped to draft the historic “Tear Down This Wall” speech.
He's stuck in your craw and you can't spit him out.
RE: My posting history clearly shows I’m no Paulastinean, but he has said that we shouldn’t be INVOLVED in Ukraine.
He has not spoken out against anyone’s liberty.
In other words, he is for anyone’s liberty but we as a country should not even so much as HELP them achieve that liberty.
What he has said is pretty clear.
It’s is also pretty clear that you are putting words in his mouth to make a point.
Pat Buchanan wrote a book (see excerpts at his site) that state we should not have become involved in WW2 against Germany.
RE: It’s is also pretty clear that you are putting words in his mouth to make a point.
OK, explain to me what he means when he says he is for anyone’s liberty... if that country or person’s liberty is at stake what does he propose to do?
My impression is he sits back even when the bully is trying to pry away that person’s liberty.
If that is not what he means, then please explain to us what exactly he means...
RE: Pat Buchanan wrote a book (see excerpts at his site) that state we should not have become involved in WW2 against Germany.
Did he explain in that book what America should have done right to prevent the Pearl harbor Attack from Japan?
That probably wasn't Reagan's own thinking, but I'm not sure that a post-Cold War expansion of our global obligations was something Reagan would have favored either.
“That probably wasn’t Reagan’s own thinking”
No, it wasn’t.
It was the American Left’s idea, though. Remember how happy they were to spend the “Peace dividend!” once Clinton took office?
I'm not saying Reagan would approve of Pat's isolationism and pro-Putinism, but I wouldn't assume that Reagan would have made some of the decisions subsequent presidents did.
A lot of good Republicans and good Americans have been skeptical about some of our involvements abroad over the years, and I wouldn't throw them over just to oblige Washington elites who made some really bad decisions in foreign policy.
Thank you. Some here seem to be more worried for others liberty than they are our own. Right now, ours is on the line.
The US is no longer going to be prepared to fight wars all over the place. Obama has seen to that. If Europe is worried, perhaps they need to spend some money on defense rather than their socialist entitlements and Muslim outreach. Then other people wouldn’t have to to the heavy lifting.
If people want a democracy, they should have allowed elections without involvement from outside nations on either side. Democracy is not freedom. People seem to confuse the two.
The problem is that the US no longer really believes in liberty. The US doesn’t care about liberty for Ukraine. It is the excuse that is used to swallow Ukraine into the world order.
That is happening to us right now. If you hadn’t noticed, the Constitution is being kicked to the curb to get us in line with the world community. That is also why we are being smothered with illegals from all over the place. That is to rid us of any national pride and to get rid of our sovereignty. The US is just one big happy member of the New World Order.
“China takes Hawaii- Yes”
Good God....
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