Posted on 07/31/2014 11:07:53 AM PDT by Veto!
>So NOW they’re looking for the other people on plane with Ebola victim.<
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It may swim across the Rio Grande into the country and not be detected until it’s too late.
IIRC, SARS scared researchers because they really didn’t know what was going on, and bird/swine flu was always one more mutation away. But talk to infectious disease researchers (and, because of a particular family member, I have), and it is Ebola which is always the real fear. You can call it hype (not without reason, I may add), but this is something that does warrant real concern. An Ebola virus which transmits efficiently prior to the onset of severe symptoms is the disease communities’ worst nightmare (that, coupled with a “don’t worry, be happy” official policy based on the belief that the panic is worse than the disease). Add to the more efficient transmission, the fact that it appears to find a home in a wide variety of animals, and this is not, in my opinion, hype, but rather something more ominous.
There is at least a 10% chance that this goes global in a significant way (just a guestimate, btw). Given the ramifications of such an event, a meaningful and coordinated response is clearly warranted.
Yeah, another excuse to stop by the ammo store and buy some more.
Dark Winter was illuminating in many ways, but its most important finding is that the politicians were always 48-72 hours late with critical containment decisions.
EHF outbreaks have always burned out, because the virus kills the host too fast. However, there has never been an EHF outbreak in a typical West African "city" (really better described as a dump for human beings).
There's a lot we don't know, and the mortality in Western ICUs will undoubtedly be lower (if they can be staffed), but this has the potential to turn into a very big problem very fast.
Thanks for the info. Sound as contagious as flu, which spreads if an infected person sneezes in your vicinity, But there’s no Ebola shot yet.
Tekmira, a Canadian company, has a vaccine in the works:
http://www.azonano.com/news.aspx?newsID=30671
>I'm sure you're right. They will get nothing from me; the monsters are murdering elephants and rhinos as fast as they can. Maybe Ebola is payback for those crimes against nature.
I only ever see a handful of FR posters who actually "get" this.
They are very open about their plans for us.
We don't really know that. (We do know that it does not transmit over long distances outdoors). "Close contact" is a term of art that can mean a couple of different things. In a hospital, it means 36"-72" and I'm sure EHF transmits that far, easily.
But the keys to this situation are crowd distances (6'-12') and how infectious contaminated surfaces (blood and vomit) are. If EHF goes 12" and/or if it is persistent on environmental surfaces, once it winds up and lets go in Lagos, it will be very bad.
As I mentioned in previous posts...this is not to downplay the serious nature of Ebola...but it IS fast now becoming a political beast..... When this happens every group that’s doing tests and trials will come knocking at every governments door for more funding and the politicians will use it as a card played in their game....as well as nation leaders declaring a crisis of humanitarian needs.
I’m just pretty sick of sending money through the rip off channels to help in Africa when there is little that comes of it but more fighting, death and disease....and the new rounds of begging for revenues to fix what THEY break.
I tend to doubt the response will be one of “meaningful and coordinated efforts”.....thought they will go through the motions. Liberia is already doing what is done to contain this.....and with it already also with their Leader asking for yet more funding for their humanitarian crisis.
It’s never ending......
IMAGINE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN” swimming across the pacific to escape the VIOLENCE of EBOLA....and being shipped to Hawaii...Wisconsin Maine California and California
“How quickly to symptoms manifest? Might someone bump into an infected person in an airport elevator and catch the disease even tho the carrier didn’t yet know he was ill?”
It would appear so. An infected person is contagious before symptoms are present.
And if you read the link from B.A. above, it also looks like a cough or sneeze can transmit the disease, the recipient collecting the virus in the lungs and airways.
Where do you begin?
Ammo, check
Latex gloves, check
Level II hippa compliant masks, check
Food to feed a family of four for six months?
Water purification and rain barrels
Formation of a neighborhood militia? Where u going to run to?
Where will this end when government collapses and fifer domes start. More important, how do we reset w/o modern technology. Will electricity be available after the collapse?
George Will says we can let them all in ‘cause we are America!
BTW George Will may know baseball but otherwise I think that he is an idiot trying to insure his invitations to the Brie and Chablis parties in D.C. and the Hamptons.
I share your concern about those that have their hands in their pockets. Just wanted to point out that this is the stuff that keeps researchers awake at night, and what we have seen so far does not contradict their more dire fears. SARS and bird/swine flu were nothing compared to the potential of Ebola.
Ebola in the U.S.?
So, could the Ebola virus come to the United States? Definitely. Would it spread widely? Unlikely.
“We do not anticipate this will spread in the U.S. if an infected person is hospitalized here,” CDC Director Tom Frieden said in a statement Tuesday. “We are taking action now by alerting health care workers in the U.S. and reminding them how to isolate and test suspected patients while following strict infection-control procedures.”
American hospitals are adequately supplied with infection-control equipment like gloves, gowns, and masks that will prevent the spread of the disease. American medical care workerseducated by the AIDS epidemicknow how to keep themselves safe while treating sick patients. And the American system of reporting illness would identify a sick patient very quickly, allowing the disease to be contained and controlled.
RE your great comment on Watch the Funding Flow:
“The head of the World Health Organization and leaders of West African nations affected by the Ebola outbreak are to announce a joint $100m (£59m; 75m euro) response plan .” More at: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28593987
National Geographic?
Aren’t they also pushing man-made global warming? Yeah, I trust them.
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