Posted on 07/22/2014 3:10:50 PM PDT by kristinn
Well for one the IRS is sticking to the “Back up tapes are erased after 6 months” story line. I don't think it is so much about getting to the bottom of the Hard Drive issue to extract the emails. What we have is 10 or more IRS officials working in concert to cover their abusive tracks. There had to have been some foot soldiers politically aligned in the IT Dept. to pull this off. Keep applying the pressure, maybe someone cracks and takes a plea deal and blows this thing up all the way to the White House. Issa / Gowdy, whoever is in charge, should be subpoenaing the Nuts and Bolts IT Guys whom would have physically worked on these PCs. LET THEM SWEAT.
It's intentional.
Have you ever heard the term “digging your own grave”
Everyone knows they are lying and that they have tried to destroy the evidence
This charade is simply documenting the ongoing cover up and stonewalling. Congressional investigators have allowed them to build up a track record for criminal convictions even if they never find any of the missing data.
In Watergate the cover up was said to worse than the crime.
With the IRS scandal, it seems that the crime was much worse than the cover up, but the IRS id working hard to reverse that dynamic to make sure that the ongoing cover up is at some point much worse than the crime.
Like Obutthead said yesterday, when you try to keep investigators from the crash site, it looks like you are trying to hide something.
That is really great. The jokes make themselves up with Team Obama
Sounds like Congress is more interested in what was on Lerner’s hard drive than HER EMAILS ON THE SERVER!!!!!
Yeah, like the history of the yahoo email accounts she was using to circumvent document disclosure policies
She might have had a POP3 setup for some reason. Like if she needed the evidence to be quickly lost or destroyed?
This is such lying nonsense it is ridiculous to anyone who’s ever been in the I/T industry."
That is not necessarily true. I'm not %100 certain...but, if the IRS is using MS Exchange on the backend and Outlook 2008 or 2010 then it IS possible that emails are stored locally. Cached Exchange Mode (a default setting) will sync most if not all content in a users mailbox to C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook\mailboxname.ost This file lets a user navigate and "use" their Outlook mailbox while offline, changes can be made (calendar appointments/unread status/build draft emails/create tasks/etc) and then those changes can then be propagated up to the server. If there was a catastrophic error on a local machine, data COULD be recovered from that file. We still never really got what the definition of "computer crash" is...an unbootable machine? a corrupt Windows install? HD errors? All these things can be construed as a "crash" in our dumbed-down, void of details culture.
But besides all that...I still don't understand why server side backups haven't been able to be found or restored.
Yes, I’ve worked a couple places where we had inbox quotas and archived old emails to our personal network drive or (if we had quotas on our network space) hard drives.
But the emails were also archived to tape. It was just a real pita to retrieve it from there.
What matters here are the NARA rules. If they were being followed then the emails should be stored on tape.
True on that. There is also the possibility of an implementation of an Exchange archive solution; where the message CONTENT for everything 90/180 days old gets archived off Exchange except for the message stub. So depending upon the enterprise setup...there is ANOTHER location for older/archived messages.
Yes, emails should be on the server.
Whatever was on that hard drive was far more incriminating than the emails, so it had to be ‘destroyed’.
There are fairly obvious problems with putting IRS data into the cloud. I sure hope they never do it.
“It is unbelievable that we cannot get a simple, straight answer from the IRS...”
No it isn’t.
If this is true - that the HD was only scratched - then someone is going to jail. Even this administration can’t lie their way around this.
I think you're far too optimistic. These things only move forward when the media publicizes them.
Well I “scratched” my hard drive and now no one on Earth can see anything on the Internet anymore. Same level of stupid as the story they’re trying to peddle.
Fair point.
So, at the direction of the boss, this corrupt agency destroyed incriminating evidence.
Jail time!
I couldn’t care less about her hard drive. All emails are stored on servers. Where is the server data? It is there, yet, people keep being distracted with her hard drive.
I'll bet my tax data isn't erased after 6 months. I'd be willing to bet they have decades and decades of my tax data. These people are morally corrupt and think nothing of protecting themselves at all costs via all manner of nefarious means.
For what it's worth, I retired from a large (20k staff) technology corporation 6 years ago and all communications and work files were up to the individual employee. There were central repositories, but it was up to each individual to select and initiate such storage. Team projects were handled the best, with emails the worst. However, in the fast world of technology, things are extinct in a couple of years and long-term archival procedures just didn't make much sense in that world.
Wow, just wow!
I wasn’t suggesting the IRS do that, it was just a flippant comparison! ;-)
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