Posted on 07/11/2014 2:49:11 PM PDT by Resettozero
“Even if he does, what happens when the spinate is locked because neither side will cross the aisle to find obungo guilty?”
You’re missing the point. By going through the process we separate the bulls from the steers. And while the impeachment is going on, you pin dear leader down somewhat.
But I’m even more pessimistic than you...I doubt that the House will bring up the issue for a vote. Which is also fine, because I think the subtler goal is to establish the case for a divorce.
“Divorce? Who?”
Conservatives from the gop wing of the uniparty. Either you’re with us in holding dear leader accountable, or you’re against us. Its that basic of a question.
The gop wing will most likely do nothing. And I foresee that SP will use that irreconcilable difference as the pretext for starting a second party.
Remember the good old days on FR when threads were filled with people working toward the same goals?
Remember when rewriting history was frowned on?
Remember when spouting the liberal talking points was a ticket out?
Remember when conservatism meant something?
Every thread now we see people repeating the defeatist liberal/GOP mantra that Obama ‘can’t be impeached’ because it would ‘hurt’ our chances in 16. Because Reid would never convict. It is truly sad to see so many people caring more about a party that screws them than their own country. But they do.
May the Lord keep and bless Sarah for her courage and bravery.
This article will be sent to each of my Reps. They need to know that the status quo must go. Enough is enough.
“This is the litmus test for GOPe and Conservatives.
Impeach? Yes or No?”
Bingo.
We have really 2 national conservative leaders at this point that are more or less recognized as such by conservatives: Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz. It’ll be very interesting to see if Ted joins in. I suspect that once they discuss it, he’ll be on board. Perhaps not vocally, but certainly in the yes column.
Oh, and if you would please put me down as a yes. Thanks.
You are wandering in the dark, FRiend. You look down on the majority of your fellow Americans as selfish, ignorant children. You are wrong about them, and you forget that most children grow up and ultimately become wiser and better, given the opportunity.
The MSM may be dominated by leftists, and many political offices such as Reid's, Obama's, and Al Franken's, are held by leftists who "won" on false votes. But the true America -- at least its legal, productive, average ranks -- is dominated by decent people who are extremely angry. Read the comments on mainstream news sites like CBS Los Angeles when they report on how "hundreds" marched on L.A. City Hall to support "immigrant rights." They make FReepers look like old ladies in their anger at liberalism, the biased MSM, and Obama.
Leftists look big and vote freehandedly; liberals and leftists are the minority in America. It's why they have to cheat.
You are holding the majority of your compatriots in contempt because a false portrait of America that you have embraced. You're not alone.
I am just worried that the Dems see the impeachment talk as a method to wreck the Republican’s chances for taking the Senate in the mid-terms this November. They can play the Race Card and the Victim Card to rally their base to the polls. They can use the Alinsky Playbook to demonize their opponents. The Dems will use the impeachment process as their focus. It would be a trap we can’t fall on. Wait until after the elections, when we have the Senate. Right now, let it be a quiet conversation by the adults—away from the ears of the Democrat base and their zero infobots.
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See post 28
From your keyboard to God's ears.
VERY well said Norm!
They worry about the Mid-Terms, then we will win big and really stick it to Ubama.
But soon an excuse will come up.
If we go after the Dem's too hard this will hurt us for 2016
That is the reason right there that we are losing.
We are Constantly reaction to the lib's
You win by making your enemy react to YOU
Also they say Impeachment will get the Lib's fired up to vote in the Mid-Terms
...um....Won't it get our side fired up for the Mid-Terms Too? Getting the vote out works both ways, it will show OUR people that we are serious.
We need to spend more time getting to OUR base rather than pandering to THEIRS!!!
Yeah, it is sad. But, if you look at anything of real positive consequence in history, it usually boils down to a few people who had some foresight.
There is definitely evil afoot. This business with the immigration buses, outright brazen disrespect for American sovereignty, looks like a set up to me. We can still manage this peacefully, and if we can't, now's the time to find out. Palin is right. Spot on speaking hard truth.
I'll be right there with her. I hope and pray that Ted Cruz has the integrity and faith to join her.
We bucked the trend in 1998 and helped get Clinton impeached.
The March for Justice was on October 31, 1998 and Clinton was impeached on Dec. 19, 1998. Seven weeks later.
In 1776, there were calls for those nutcases in Philadelphia to go back home and stop the foolishness about taking on the King.
Sometimes you just have to do the right thing even if the world is against you.
Like Sarah Palin.
Impeachment without conviction and removal? Nope...that is a ‘no go’ at this station.
He’s go to GO...preferably, to prison.
No impeachment? How about a coup d’etat?
I can think of one other thing...but I dare not speak it.
I get a lot of grief for saying this but a lot of these situations are Binary. All the grief changes nothing.
We either impeach or we assist. The Constitution is crystal clear. It is not, as some call it, a ‘political’ act. If it were, impeachment would specify parties be involved. It does not. It specifies that if congress believes HCAM have occured, the remedy is impeachment.
Binary.
There are no escape clauses. There are no excuses. People either believe in the Constitution as written or they do nor. We are becoming liberals parsing this stuff. The language and the intent of the document are clear.
Do it or do not. Binary.
So it logically follows that those arguing against impeachment when there is no argument that HCAM have occurred many times over do not accept the Constitution and are in fac opposing it.
This isn’t FreeJohnKerry.com. you cannot be for something before you are against it, no matter how many of these Cheshires may want it to be.
“...um....Won’t it get our side fired up for the Mid-Terms Too? Getting the vote out works both ways, it will show OUR people that we are serious.”
Cowards make excuses. It’s their nature. We have plenty of cowards on the right afraid of their own shadow.
Then there are the actual paid disruptors. But there don’t need to be many since so many supposed conservatives run and hide at the first sign that they may have to sweat a little.
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