Steven Hatfill's Strange Trip From Accused Terrorist to Medical Adventurer

Newsweek ^ | June 18, 2014 | Cameron Bird

[John Faust]

Who else remembers The Great Satan? Somehow I don't think Newsweek has the whole story.

[John Faust]

Ping... Anybody still here?

[John Faust]

Does anybody know what the comments were on theatlantic.com? Better yet, is there a link, or a link to the Wayback Machine?

To my recollection, the troll was trolling Warren, not Hatfill.

[OldNewYork]

So far, what I got out of the article is that The Atlantic is a far right publication.

[John Faust]

I think it was a comment some reader posted that generated Hatfill’s complaint, not the Atlantic article itself.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

Still getting curiouser......................

Article in question: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/05/the-wrong-man/308019/

Howsoever, offending comments by LW are all deleted, every one o’ them.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

Correction... Offending comments << NOT >> by LW, just claimed by the troll to be by LW. Still all deleted, every one o' them!

[BlackVeil]

I do remember The Great Satan, and his interest in Project Hatfill - indeed, I have a vague memory that it was his blog - or maybe not, I can’t get the details right.

This is a fascinating story, and it shows the limits of the anonynimity of the internet.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

You remember correctly. << Project Hatfill >> was TGS's blog on blogspot. I think earlier called << The Hatfill Deception >> on Angelfire.

Offending blog vis-a-vis Newsweek was the << Luigi Warren >> blog, which was << NOT >> by Luigi Warren aka TGS, but by some stalker who accused him.

Newsweek says the stalker was Michie.

Both blogs are gone gone gone. Warren's was at hatfill.blogspot.com, now innocuous pap. The stalker's was at luigiwarren.blogspot.com, just gone.

Still mysterioso: Why did Hatfill sue over the stalking, when the stalking was aimed at Warren???

[John Faust]

This is a fascinating story, and it shows the limits of the anonynimity of the internet.

Yes, it's a fascinating story.

The limits-of-anonymity point you brought up is interesting:

John Michie's identity was revealed through Internet sleuthing, requiring a lawsuit and perhaps Hatfill's gravitas to get Google to give in.

However, Luigi Warren as TGS's real name was revealed the old-fashioned way: someone who knew him spilled the beans.

[John Faust]

Why did Hatfill sue over the stalking, when the stalking was aimed at Warren???

Good question, Khan. Who benefited most from this?

I think Warren benefited more than Hatfill: Warren found out who had been stalking him for years and got him to stop (even if Warren knew or guessed before who the stalker was, he couldn't have proven it or done anything about it).

[okie01]

The whole affair remains a fascinating story. A series of fascinating stories, actually.

There is The Steven Hatfill Experience, itself.

There was The Pointed Finger, by Dr. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, born of some kind of dubious (and inexplicable) hysteria.

Then, there was The Final Resolution Of The Whodunnit (Dr. Bruce Ivins done it) -- more a solution of convenience than a true resolution.

And, in all the smoke and dust (and mirrors), there remains The Great Amerithrax Mystery. Unsolved still today.

We don't know where the anthrax came from, nor who was responsible for delivering it. It remains Nine Eleven's matryoshka.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

<< I think Warren benefited more than Hatfill: Warren found out who had been stalking him for years and got him to stop (even if Warren knew or guessed before who the stalker was, he couldn't have proven it or done anything about it). >>

Exactamente. Two potzibilties:

1 - Did Warren and Hatfill agree that Hatfill would file suit against Warren, just so Warren could get Google to reveal his stalker's IP address?

or

2 - Did Warren bait Hatfill to file suit against him, again so Warren could get Google to reveal his stalker's IP address?

I.e., are Warren and Hatfill in collusion, or not?

[Khan Noonian Singh]

<< However, Luigi Warren as TGS's real name was revealed the old-fashioned way: someone who knew him spilled the beans. >>

Whosoever revealed TGS's true identity? Were it Michie, or somebody else?

Didnt the diatribe spelling out Luigi's name mention Stellenbosch? But Michie wouldnt have known, hm?

More likely somebody Warren knew, who turned?

Very strange... Warren takes pains for years, secretively hiding behind multiple IDs and sockpuppets. Then suddenly one day, badaboom, his real name is revealed.

[John Faust]

Very strange... Warren takes pains for years, secretively hiding behind multiple IDs and sockpuppets. Then suddenly one day, badaboom, his real name is revealed.

Warren might have decided that his best option was to reveal his own name, anonymously of course.

1st, the secretiveness may have been attracting too much unwanted attention.

2nd, being willing to reveal his own name was an implied threat that he was willing to reveal anything.

The "Let the chips fall where they may, old chap" theory.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

Not 142.232.65.7 ... IP address was 146.232.xxx.xxx.

Accuracy in every thing. But I am just a lowly FR poster without a fact-checker.

Please remind me -—— What do those big-media editorial gatekeepers add again?

[John Faust]

Ping to a few more people who might be interested if they’re still around.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

<< Warren might have decided that his best option was to reveal his own name >>

May be ...... He did plai a good game of chicken, learnt from the master.

Still, still... personal best guess that some body wary exercized his right to defend. No attornees needed for that one.

[Thud]

Thanks. Check out John Ringo’s pasting of DOJ and the FBI on this in his _Under a Graveyard Sky_. Their attitude is that, if you can explain how a crime occurred, you must have done it. No one in medicine or biology in their right mind will now talk to them about anything remotely related to biological terrorism or warfare.

[John Faust]

Yes, a very good game of chicken.

But don't you wonder... what was his actual game?

Probably more than ten thousand posts on FR and elsewhere. A well-maintained blog with articles carefully thought out and persuasively written. Nearly a full-time pursuit.

Why?