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Why the Cory Booker/Rand Paul Medical Marijuana Amendment Is Right
Townhall.com ^ | June 23, 2014 | Cathy Reisenwitz

Posted on 06/23/2014 12:17:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: GeronL
Whatever that means

My argument is constitutionally based, not "conservatism " based. Do you not get the difference between the Constitution and "conservatism"?

41 posted on 06/23/2014 2:38:55 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Oh, I understand the difference


42 posted on 06/23/2014 2:41:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

That’s good, but then why do you respond to my Constitution-based argument as “a view of conservatism?”


43 posted on 06/23/2014 2:44:33 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson; GeronL
Great! Rand Paul agrees with Obama on foreign policy, amnesty, gay marriage and dope.

For the jonesin' pro-ganja crowd all other issues, including abortion and 2nd Amendment rights, are but hazy irritants at the edge of a good high.

44 posted on 06/23/2014 2:45:27 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: PapaNew

A Constitution-based argument without any other influence, like morality or conservative is a hollow one.

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams


45 posted on 06/23/2014 2:46:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Fightin Whitey

I think Rand Paul will “evolve” on abortion in due course, to the libertarian position


46 posted on 06/23/2014 2:47:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I think he’ll probably evolve to the Democrat position, and run as one.

Rand-Booker, Booker-Rand. Seems like a team that would have a lot of appeal out there, don’t it?


47 posted on 06/23/2014 2:49:54 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Might even get the GOP and Democrat nominations!


48 posted on 06/23/2014 2:51:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion

Indeed - addressing drug use is up to morality and religion, not government.

49 posted on 06/23/2014 2:55:10 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Impy; Kaslin; sickoflibs; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Ugh...


50 posted on 06/23/2014 2:56:26 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: ConservingFreedom

Wow. That’s your take?

So its okay to drug up and sex up your kids if your religion and morality says its okay?


51 posted on 06/23/2014 2:56:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
A Constitution-based argument without any other influence, like morality or conservative is a hollow one.

Wow, well, as I said before, looks like you're on the side of some kind of despotic rule of man since the Constitution is the rule of law that has made America exceptional in the world.

There's much evidence that without unconstitutional federal interference, the states would have just laws, the best example being state anti-abortion laws being overturned unconstitutionally by the feds.

Looks like you've acquiesced to tyranny "without firing a shot." If that's what "conservatism" is, count me out.

52 posted on 06/23/2014 3:10:51 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

It is amazing to see libertarians calling conservatives who oppose 95% of the federal government a believer in despotic rule.

Then they will turn around and pretend we can all come together on election day, as long it’s their candidate of course. “Can’t we all get along?” they will ask.

So if one opposes drugs and open borders and supports age of consent laws then one is a tyrant. Libertarians care about so few things, and they are the wrong ones.

They should go and team up with NAMBLA, Occutards and the Democrats because libertardians will fit right in.


53 posted on 06/23/2014 3:14:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
If you're arguing for cutting 95% of the federal government, you'll get little argument from me. (You're earlier reference to that wasn't clear.) That would cut the annual government budget to $200 billion, most of which would go to defense where most of the budget belongs.

But if you acquiesce to the destruction of the Constitution, you'll get a argument from me.

However, if you argue for a strong defense and intelligence community influencing and helping (but not forcing) freedom fighters around the world, instead of "isolationism", you also won't get an argument from me.

It's hard to have a conversation with someone when what you say comes back in broad generalities of partisan politics. You're sweeping generalities will almost certainly not apply to me.

54 posted on 06/23/2014 3:46:05 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

It’s an industry that puts food on the table, pays mortgages, tuition, vacation, and retirement. War apparently pays.


55 posted on 06/23/2014 3:50:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ConservingFreedom; GeronL

>>He said nothing about kids nor crack, slimeball.

An unnecessary characterization about a respected FReeper.


56 posted on 06/23/2014 3:58:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric; ConservingFreedom

I replied to the name calling my own way. lolz


57 posted on 06/23/2014 4:03:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I noticed a few deleted posts. /grin


58 posted on 06/23/2014 4:10:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mr. K

If you criminalize crack and meth, you will still have a war on drugs.


59 posted on 06/24/2014 5:02:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: GeronL
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion

Indeed - addressing drug use is up to morality and religion, not government.

So its okay to drug up and sex up your kids if your religion and morality says its okay?

No, "drug use" doesn't refer to drugging up and sexing up kids ... why would you think it does? The proper role of government is to protect individual rights - which do include the rights of kids to not be drugged or molested, but do not include any fabricated 'right' to dictate the contents of a legally competent adult's bloodstream.

60 posted on 06/24/2014 6:31:07 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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