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Climate Change Induced Corn-mageddon? (Another stupid environmental wacko theory)
am thinker ^ | 6/14/14 | s rayne

Posted on 06/14/2014 5:53:01 AM PDT by bestintxas

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To: Kackikat

You didn’t get my reference.

Kruschev wanted to make corn the staple grain of theSoviet Union instead of wheat. The climate in Russia was, and is, inhospitable. This program, and similar “hare-brained” schemes is why he was pushed out.

If the U.S. gets too hot and dry for raising corn, it stands to reason that the new climate might be just right for Russia and Canada to take it up.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 6:30:26 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If youÂ’re litigating against nuns, youÂ’ve probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: bestintxas

The problem this growing season is getting out into the fields because of flooding rains across the Plains. Don’t these people keep up with the weather?

And yes, quit requiring ethanol that cuts food supply, cuts miles per gallon engine efficiency, and increases engine life and we will have more than enough corn.


22 posted on 06/14/2014 6:34:11 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Error: meant to say DECREASES engine life….


23 posted on 06/14/2014 6:35:04 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jjotto

“Corn is already selling at or below the cost of production. How will that work out long term?”

Huge amounts of land have been converted to corn production from other grains in order to take advantage of an artificial market caused by ethanol subsidies,

no subsidies = back to marketplace and other grains are grown and everything goes down in price.

I raise cattle and feed is at an alltime high, so beef prices are in the stratosphere


24 posted on 06/14/2014 6:42:08 AM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“We already have too much corn, as proven by market prices. “

corn market is artificial due to govt ethanol subsidies.

need to get rid of subsidies and let market stabilize true value


25 posted on 06/14/2014 6:44:37 AM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: bestintxas

In full sun a cornfield will deplete the CO2 to nearly zero. Corn and other C4 plants evolved due to the relatively recent CO2 starvation on the planet. Corn will obviously grow better with more manmade CO2, the only bad thing is that C3 weeds will also be more competitive.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 6:51:01 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: docbnj

“The moral is that socialism is a much more dangerous threat than minor climate change”

And that is what Republican politicians should be saying in every ad. This should be a non stop war against the left.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 6:57:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: bestintxas

Hmm...

It’ll take an economist to figure out that scenario.

The marketplace would be good for livestock producers. US government interference leads to LOWER prices and LOWER margins. Government spending covers up the real costs.


28 posted on 06/14/2014 6:58:07 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: bestintxas

Probably an engineered crisis anyway. For some reason, all the fields near my town that are usually corn fields grew wheat this year. Even one that is used for hay and another that grew sunflowers grew wheat this year.


29 posted on 06/14/2014 7:00:34 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: docbnj
At any rate, about 40% of the US corn crop is now used to make ethanol in order to dilute your gasoline (which gives you higher gasoline prices, lower mileage, and more engine wear). (By comparison, 45% of US corn is used to feed livestock, half of what it used to be, which is why meat prices are rising.)

Yes, 40% of the U.S. corn crop now is used for ethanol, but this has been accomplished while still meeting traditional food, feed, and export demand. The ethanol buildout was feedstocked by higher production, and corn yields continue to increase. People in the business expect national average yield to reach 200 bushels an acre in the mid-term, and higher down the road. The current winners in the annual corn yield contests are commonly over 300 bushels an acre, which is ten times the average yield at the end of WWII.

From the farmers' standpoint, a bushel of corn converted into ethanol and DDGS is significantly more valuable than the same bushel sold as feed. Prices are volatile, but just to toss out some ballpark numbers, if commodity corn is $4.75 a bushel and the same bushel converted to ethanol and DDGS is $7-7.50, the choice is pretty clear.

From a motorist's standpoint, ethanol reduces the cost of gasoline by providing a cost effective competitor to petroleum (which is why the oil industry hates ethanol). At a 10% blend, ethanol will reduce mileage because its energy density is lower than gasoline, but at higher blends, the mileage penalty would disappear because the octane boost would more than compensate. But that would require evolving towards E30 or E40 blend levels, which is a long term proposition. If third generation feedstocks (e.g. algae) hit a suitable price point, however, I would expect this to happen fairly promptly.

30 posted on 06/14/2014 7:01:57 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: bestintxas

Right... corn uses the C4 photosynthetic pathway, which functions at higher temperatures where other plants shut off photosynthesis.


31 posted on 06/14/2014 7:04:21 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: bestintxas

The largest provision of water for the Midwest is from the Oglala aquifer (the big circle in the middle of the map.)

http://theparagraph.com/wp-content/articles/post109/us_uncon-semi.gif

Importantly, the fruitcake Ted Turner has tried very hard to buy up every square inch of land over the aquifer, likely for a nefarious reason, like turning it over to some eco-nut group to put off limits to farmers when he dies.

http://i.imgur.com/nAmQYkE.jpg

However, assuming that he is defeated in his quest for ruination of Americas farm belt, and problem and a solution have emerged about the Oglala.

That is, that close to a century of farming has reduced the fixed amount of the glacially created water in the aquifer, so that it is starting to dry up in its shallower reaches, such as in Texas.

So, to insure plentiful water in the aquifer, there is an idea to create a man made river from Canada, through North Dakota, to South Dakota and the northern edge of the aquifer, with the intent to pump that water underground into the aquifer.


32 posted on 06/14/2014 7:25:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: bestintxas

Corn yields have done nothing but increase, and the recent rains across the central plains states will raise the yield even higher. I have the chart of corn yields, but it’s on my computer and I’m on my phone.


33 posted on 06/14/2014 7:26:22 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: bestintxas

I think you are arguing that prices would be lower with out government involvement, and that’s true.

The problem for farmers, and consumers is that current prices are below cost of production.

Short term lower prices are certainly a possibility, but not sustained lower prices.


34 posted on 06/14/2014 7:31:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: jsanders2001

Of course. :)


35 posted on 06/14/2014 8:00:07 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: bestintxas

We are burning food for fuel?

Who would have known.


36 posted on 06/14/2014 8:03:32 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: sphinx
... the mileage penalty would disappear because the octane boost would more than compensate.

Octane and BTU's are two very different things.

37 posted on 06/14/2014 8:23:15 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: bigbob

The Ogallala Aquifer is running dry.


38 posted on 06/14/2014 8:25:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
... there is an idea to create a man made river from Canada...

It would be far simpler to dam the Platte River in eastern Nebraska and pump that water down into the aquifer.

39 posted on 06/14/2014 8:32:47 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bestintxas

Gee...the last time it was AGW-increased CO2. They must’ve figured out that CO2 ‘helps’ agriculture and chose to be equally ignorant by doubling down in demonstrating they know nothing about agriculture at all, let alone corn...


40 posted on 06/14/2014 8:39:30 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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